fuck off agps this isn't your home
previously on GAYgen:
qott: Are you doing anything for Pride Month?
/GAYgen/ - onlygays edition
this is a safe space for blacks and muslims
no racism or islamophobia here! it will not be tolerated!
we should put blm and islam symbols on the pride flag
I hope you smile today. I hope you feel the warm sun on your skin.
:)
would you date an arab guy and move to the middle east to live with him and his family?
No, I don't think so :/
What about you?
Wow, thanks! That's lovely. I hope the same for you too.
cyborg bfs who give powerful handjobs when
We have Friday the 13th for Pride Month thie year. Your chances of getting AIDS triples if you have unprotected sex on that day.
bottom bfs who are forced to carry babies with artificial wombs
my schizo theory is that basically aids happened when guys had rough sex with no lube and like they were so depressed from society being anti-gay they would take it out on each other with really rough sex + trying to be "macho" and that's what caused aids
if there had been lube and the sex was gentle and not quick and furtive there wouldn't have been an aids crisis
no mooslims edition
raping a bottom and forcing him to undergo artificial womb transplant to carry my baby
this will be the future
Wanna get high but I need to be productive today :((
qott: Are you doing anything for Pride Month?
Nothing gay related im afraid
<3
naaah fuck that what if it goes I, Robot on you and crushes your dick into fine powder. Not letting a machine get close to mine
see muslims are welcome here
they are our allies
so beautiful
all bottoms should be transed
There should be a theme for each year of Pride. Something like pirates or espionage.
It's 1 am go to bed
if you haven't turned your bottom into mtf, then you're probably not a real gay
omg I'd love that
no its 10 am actually? also I'm already in bed :3
I will guard my bottom's penis with my life. You will have to kill me before you get to chop off my bottom's penis. Over my dead body sis.
Oh well shoot. Scoot over cuz i need a body pillow to help my fall asleep
Dag, yo….there ain’t nuthin’ better in this here life than pouring a big gay coffee into my big gay ass. Smell ya later, choombas.
get out
thank you for your service
I'm gay but I'm really tempted to zerk off to this
so youre not gay
Guess not. Ig this is goodbye cheeza.
buhbye
tempted to jerk off to mid shit
imagine how much hotter it would be if it was a guy and his ribs were also showing
You know, that why you have no friends babe. If I was a furry with poo crusted hairy arse snorting meth out of men's assholes you would like me.
I mean I like that too. Why can't I be gay and like both
That's called being bi luv
us tops should make our bottoms fight each other for money, winner takes all, bussy and the cash
she looks amazing though
literally just a normal woman contorting her body. hairy = lazy
I want to own your bottom for the night if my bottom wins. I want my bottom to rape him.
Literally 10 minutes and I came. That's the first girl (female) I've coomed to in like a year.
I wish I only liked one or the other, liking girls is a pain in my arse
none of y'all ever got an attractive man to become interested in y'all
y'all got no style
Feet
y'all got ugly feet
my bed is holding me captive. its not letting me leave ;_;
I'm all style
the bottom who loses is raped by all the other tops who participate
bottoms should open the door wearing burqa
what if a stranger sees his skin? that is haram
did ruzzia run out of twinks to cockfight with or what
No one here is gay lol
They should have buttplugs. Whoever pulls out the other's buttplug out first wins.
There's no reason to be gay in public unless you're looking for sex.
we are all trans here sis
cant stop playing polish skyrim...
My bottom isn't allowed to open doors in my house. He must ask for my permission if he wants to enter a new room.
There's no reason to be gay in front of your family unless you're looking for sex.
polish skyrim
which is?
Should families be naked in front of each other? I think yes, BUT only for the hot families.
anyone here gay, straight best friend who doesnt know they are gay and sorta hates faggots tier here. gonna meet up with my oldest only friend and gotta be careful because i know what he thinks. fuck.
straight best friend hates faggots
oof
bad luck
tainted grail
straight best friend hates faggots
hot
very good! bottoms must learn their place and obey their tops!
Ask him what bothers him more: the sex, the underlying values, the identity, the movement. They're different things, and its important that he understands that, as well as you.
what is hot about that
you should shave your bottom and make him wear hijab
transition is prefered, but this is a good start
idk i just have trauma
Thoughts on masculine latin men named Marina?
sorry muslim gay shariah is christian and christians hate trannies
why troon out your bottom and speed up his already short shelf life. we hate troons here
blackmailed into licking a black male's feet
being into homophobic straights isnt too bad it could be worse you could be into being a journalist like that freak glengarry greenwald
I miss kuro washi
everyone was angry with me when i brought up the glenn incident the other day lol
Yes. He is lead by a leash and collar everytime I move him from the bedroom to the kitchen to the bathroom.
transition is prefered
I will have your severed head on a cross sis.
islam is the future
better start preparing for the new rules sis
we love troons here sis
no you won't sis
kek fags get so mad when they are shown how degenerate they can be
theres nothing wrong with being an autojournphile but dont retweet it for kids to see on twitter you know?
my experience is that they will not care at all but this is not legal advice
Hello
very good
bottoms don't have any rights btw
A bottom's penis is like a precious gemstone. You must treasure it and keep it locked and safe.
yes
chop it off and keep it safe locked inside a small cryo chamber, show him his manhood everytime he thinks he has any say in the matters at home
under sharia, there will be a mandatory program to transition all bottoms and implant them with artificial wombs
they will start to bear their top's children
a top can legally own upto 4 bottoms at a time, and he must divorce before acquiring newer bottoms
bottoms will be covered head to toe, not allowed to step outside the house without being accompanied by their top, or speak to other tops
But that would imply they have virtue to protect. A male cumdumpster is a dog, someone who makes a choice to trade the humanity implied in manhood to be kept like an animal. Its absurd that they wear clothes indoors at all.
People dress pets up all the time and have parody relationships with them all the time. But thats the joke, the irony. In reality, cats and dogs do not actually wear hats and sweaters, or even names. Likewise, male cumdumps have no virtue as humans. They simply were once humans who gave up dignity to be receptacles for semen.They forfeited their humanity and gave up on being one.
You can treat them like people if it assuages anxiety about that fact and makes interaction seem more rewarding like chatting with your pet, but to actually believe the male you keep to take loads is also somehow still a peer is just degrading to your own image as a rational purpose.
Its the same reality that makes you roll your eyes when women tell you the deep and thoughtful opinions their cat has anything. Thats the joke. Its why pet videos are popular and funny. Because animals don't actually possess human thoughts, and male whores aren't people who do either.
If male whores had useful thoughts and deserved respect, they would just be called men and it wouldn't invite an argument about definitions when making the claim.
No. That is like removing the penis from the statue of David. That is desecration of aristry of the male body. Your foul blasphemy will meet its due justice.
cute dog
this is the fate of all bottoms who hit twinkdeath under sharia
at least, you will be useful at guarding your former top's house...
you will be beheaded and stoned to death if you don't transition your bottom
i don't make the rules sis
mario or sonic?
dont think thats gonna work. thing is, when we met, i was the one who should of succeeded out of sheer neoptism and wealth and shit, and i flunked, and he had nothing and has a fucking AWESOME life, cute kids and a crazy wife (they are both redacted because its too fucking specific).
if it came down to: what do i think is wrong with our ideologies they would just point out how much of a fucking failure i was and probably be right.
yeah totally normal nothing to unpack with that. anyways im just simply going to continue as per normal. never bring it up, never talk about it. im just stoked hes still happy to see me and how fun its been to talk about all the crazy shit we did
neither, waluigi
AI handjob stations in every bathroom when I'm President
You wicked agent of Eve. Impersonator.
Parasite Eve
i prefer yoshi sis
Then the gays hop on stage like "I can shake my ass, too"
hairy bottoms are a disgrace to our community
disgusting
it's a sin! it's a crime! it'll be punishable to death under sharia
Oh they can definitely be useful. Ideally, you can collect them, and the new ones learn from older ones who are dispatched to do other chores, but still have a role. Or you can sell them, but it can be hard on them and diminish their performance, and thus value. So in an ideal world, you build your house staff that way. But some people cant afford that many over time, so you have to think about how you are going to free them over time. Its technically not your concern what happens to them, but if they suspect they are about to be un-homed with no support later, they naturally can become erratic and difficult. So its useful to prepare them for transition to whatever awaits them. Loyal human pets have to be made, take a lot of time and work, so it can be difficult to let one go even if all they do is hang around, clean/garden and mentor new ones. They have to know they are safe or they will reject new ones.
hes so cute i love him so much
You just want his butt, don't you...
I like the Super Mario games on the SNES. Two of my first video games were Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island. What about you?
Aww what's his name?
Yes, I am aware of that. It was sort of a bullshit charge when you dig into it and unwrap it. A local hospital felt snubbed early on during delivery, contacted a youth services worker who also felt disrespected, and the evidence suggested that a lack of breast milk had nothing to do with it, rather the infant had some metabolic deficiency. But it was a convenient narrative, and it was a small redneck town, and the law enforcement knew of Williams gay porn. So it was easy to tie the two together to state the case and make it seem about the porn lifestyle. The guy got legally railroaded, and the actual mother got the usual slap on the wrist.
Its not to say they werent culpable of criminal negligence in not being competent enough to know the child needed special medical care, but it was not the result of the implications the state made about criminal withholding of titty juice, which was basically their claim. They were both drug users, so that would not have been a good idea, and its not like there is no such thing as baby formula. The child "Data" simply had a condition no one knew about.
max, the white one is calypso
There should be daily hair inspections. Bottoms must present their naked bodies for tops to inspect for any hairs they might have missed while shaving. Each hair they miss is a lash from the whip.
pakistan > palestine
damn got outlored, i kneel
real gay porn lorebeard hrs
God denies ass shaking form to thousands of fems but grants it whimsically to the straightest sports players alive just so they can be funny in locker rooms.
I control the rhythm of your ass.
need money for cigarettes T_T
They're adorable <3
open your mouth, bitch
i'll give you a fag to smoke
mfw I see a straight man with a dump truck that will never be put to good use
girls like butts too
smoking is gross
many such cases
smoke n' stroke
good, at least it will keep zoomers away from me
smoking pipe
I'm in my underwear right now because it's warm
warm
wearing an all black shirt and underwear
dark color fabrics absorbs more heat and warmth
thoughts on the recent glenn greenwald thing? i know you like him but seeing hiw youre always shitting on degeneracy, what glenn was doing in that clip was pretty damn degenerate as fuck. what say you, your highness the boomer?
Shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up! Shut up. What are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing? I have to go right now. I’m getting calls. I have to catch a flight. I’m on a tour.
I’m trying to be fucking nice. You see I’m trying to be nice right now, right? You’re forcing me to be bad but I’m actually doing a good thing.
Alright? So, just chill the fuck out and- I gotta go.
who asked?
hint: nobody
marina is older than dan
based
hairy bottoms with hairy pits and hairy bush and hairy crack
sometimes i get road rage..
if real life was twisted metal, i would be known as the incinerator. offenders (slow drivers) would be purged with napalm rockets that don't stop melting. until the job is finished. all that's left is a scorch mark, and miraculously, the world becomes a better place as the roads get cleansed of all the filth permeating through society
tfw no gamer bf
what happened to wow with frotty
Travis Bickle realness
need a racist nazi bf who will cuddle and play vidyagaymes with me :3
I dont understand the question, frame of reference nor am able to intuit relevance. I think juxtaposition implies irony that I presume is self evident, but I am unclear how video evidence of sex is or was intended to contradict his reporting. It seems it was meant to embarass him, but I don't see any other effect, and it didnt even accomplish that. Hes also Jewish but it doesn't detract from his credibility because his analyses remain true. If the video showed him taking money from Hamas or a political party, it would be a different story.
I have not seen the video or intend to, as I dont see why I would want to see a 58 year old doing anything. Insofar as I can tell, even RW twitter which constantly posts trannies as if I should be interested, knows Greenwalds credibility is so impervious that they would get trounced for spreading it. I am not Nick Fuentes, who complains about the degeneracy of online pundits being revealed in gay porn leaks, and then for some reason watches it and recounts it in detail.
i ghostwrote this post
Western conservatism creeps closer to being forced to reconcile with the eternal emergence of homosexuality among men, but it will never intellectually conquer the topic coherently until men understand and arrive at the self evident conclusion that same sex interest is baked into developing masculinity, not the province of some mentally deranged mutant.
Even Islam seems to understand that much. Like most preceding cultures, they identify it as a practice of youth that must be left behind for an advancing civilization, that it is all men who should abandon its fascination, not just a typified phenotype external to all other men, which is the Western cope to feign virtue by denouncing other individuals that openly practice it, rather than admit it is a universal phenomenon of the male psyche, where social maturity must compel the individual to fight temptation to prioritize the group, over the otherwise rational selfish animal conclusion that the company of a female is tantamount to shit.
peepee pole goes in poopoo hole
tranny coded post
prostate hurting from tfw no bf
kill me pls
cute n wholesome
papa pole*
need to be pinned down and forced to sniff sweaty hairy pits
buttsack vs ballsack
it must feel so good licking and huffing a sweaty ballsack
most underrated part imo, rarely see guys licking balls in porn
Do you like loose, drooping balls or tight and plump? For me, it's tight and plump.
I think he killed his husband so he can live out his fucked up degenerate fantasies. This guy has kids btw. If I knew my father was wearing a maid outfit while doing weird shit with men, i'd disown him.
simple gay checking in this thread. I wish i was the bottom of a big guy since im a soft otter type.
how gay are you if being called a good girl is a giant turn off?
billy no mates
in the sex video glen greenwald is seen smoking meth from a pipe
yet biboomer isn't calling him a degenerate yet....
i'm a dude so i prefer being called a good boy
i don't like that femboy twink girlboy malewife tranny shit
intro gay
Fucking my tops ass and cumming inside
need a strong man to force me to sniff and lick his hairy pits and call me a good boy
At 1:05:54, Glenn unloads on Matt Walsh for Walsh's opinion that gays should not adopt.
Which, even if you believe that, Walsh's articulation of that view was still pretty brainlet and lacked any informed circumspection.
rumble.com
Ejaculating on your opponent is a bit much
two perverts fighting
Same like, I will happily wear something like a maid outfit, but call me a good girl repeatedly, and we are done.
what do you mean?
can i adopt some kids pls?
i miss tank
Me too...
he was just another paypig
kissing feet is the new punk
I dont really get it myself but its obviously some kink. Tf else is he going to do, hes 58, his husband is dead and his kids are grown up. He spends his other time running a dog shelter and feeding wild monkeys that are forever trying to break into his kitchen.
Plus his (most recent) Tucker interview dropped the very next day, suggesting Tucker had no fucks to give about it either.
He is living a life of gaydead luxury and debauchery in Rio and pissing off all the right people. The rest of you should be so lucky at 58.
tf else is going to do
date men, have a normal sex life, and find another guy to marry?
who was he paying
gay man smokes meth and fucks black guy
How is this even news? What next?
Gay man seen enjoying mamosas at an early brunch.
black
that's the part that's supposed to get you riled up
Apparently no one has read:
x.com
have a normal sex life
lol
Spoken like true gay.
everyone he's been in a long-distance relationship with he would send money and gifts to
Is it just the video of him wearing a house keeper dress and a black Brazilian talking trash to him? And then he sends him money?
it was consensual behavior, harming nobody
meth harms everyone in your life
he told on discord he sent one person $500 via western union or something and then they ghosted him :/
poor tank is going to get owned his whole life by you fuckin freaks
that's what happens when a website allows brown people to interact with whites
lol every RW pundit account that wants to survive is supporting Glenn while the left continues to call him a Russian stooge. The right wingers know they will have their throats cut if they mock the guy who is holding the left and establishment right to account.
we need segregation on the internet
yes
Segregation of who?
what a handsome guy
niggers (inclusive of all shades of shit) from humans
Thank you, I wasn't expecting my beard to look like this
close to knowing
Right now, somewhere in a warehouse in Rio, there is a black male prostitute hanging upside down by his ankles with a rag stuffed in his mouth, watching dogs eat the corpse last suspect as Glenn's agent paces the room smoking and Brazilian police sit watching and waiting for a name.
if i'm 40+, unmarried, and still trying to live out my kink fantasies with hook-ups just kill me
tieing up your top
edging him with your feet while scrolling IG reels
Weird faggot starts acting like he's about to cum
Call him gross and stop
Mush fis face with my toes and tell him he can't cum
Still shaking and his cock is bouncing
Step on his balls thinking that will work
Powerful and explosive ejaculation
Why are foot guys so gross?
Tick tock.
Why yall slut shaming Glenn? I thought y’all were sex positive . Also he wasn’t even having sex on the video tape just submitting to his top.
Because it's the current thing!!!1!1!1!!!
most people are golems incapable of animating themselves
Because gaygen is full of autists who can't distinguish edge from cringe and always default to edge.
ikr?
because old men should be celibate and focused on holier things imo
post hole
notice how it's only the browns okay with glenn's behavior... how telling
need a top who will legally own me
yes, i don't deserve rights
I'm self conscious about my hole, since I have a vitiligo stripe that runs all the way through my buttcrack
"conservative bottom"
ik you're obsessed with american politics pilipino nigga but you don't have to mimick the spinelessness too
Nigga, why do you even care? Millions of people do shit like that. An American Jew that lives in Brazil has nothing to do with your shithole of a country lmao.
youre a fat loser kill yourself
Get a life shiza
I doubt if anyone remembers Harold Covington, who was a bit of a kook and an unintentional grifter who spent much of the last years of his life hoping to build a rather impotent movement for a white "homeland" in the Pacific northwest. While his plan was fundamentally flawed, flushing it out brought a lot of awareness to practical issues that people who claimed to want such a thing had never considered before. It was, in essence, a decade long internet argument. Although a bit daft, he was an encyclopedia on race and the joo.
This Greenwald reaction on RW twitter reminds me of him. Covington naturally hated homosexuality in *all* forms, but had a soft spot for J. Edgar Hoover, who he acknowledged was a statist and pervert, and spoke highly of him, despite him being a known gay crossdresser.
stop get misdemeanor charges and felonies xanthippe
Start taking English lessons sweetie
hes a public figure
I really don't care about any of this
do tops like hairy bottoms or should i just get lasered? what if the guy doesn't like the way my ass/hole looks?
Zzzommmg!!!!!! le ebbin person that appears on a screen!!!
So what? Public figures are not allowed to be submissive in bed? Get a life like fr. Go outside and get a hobby sweaty
why do these lame questions keep getting asked daily when the answer is always the same...
IT VARIES
each top has their own preference
public figures aren't allowed to smoke crack and act degenerate and then try to pretend they're honest upstanding people
its not about the sexual interests and acts of the person but the fact that it was recorded and made public. privacy is important. get that in your fat head, luv
you dont have to write these posts in retardspeak they all read like this already
who gives a fuck you obese piece of shit why don’t you focus on making your own fucking life something 99% of people wouldn’t kill themselves over
but that sounds awesome. is it hairy?
You thought you ate but you're bulimic
tops love bottoms with ass hairs long and thick enough to form dreadlocks, ass-locks so to speak, work on that
i dont think any father should be having sex with men anything beyond that is just stacking perversion
do you like hairy bottom crack and hole?
yes
do you have a hairy bottom bf?
I don't believe in privacy. I wish everyone's name and address was posted on here and they called got out for their awful posts in real life by their community. Anonymity always leads to corruption of society.
wwwwaaaaooowww this guy I didn't know about three days ago was caught sucking on a negro's toes!!!!!! WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS OKAY?
yeah
being smooth is aesthetic
I don't believe in privacy.
go barge into your mom and dad having sex first and then report back to us, luv
Yes, very
are hairy bottoms lower value?
is licking toilet bowl brushes aesthetic?
my parents were always open about their love for each other and would let me know they were in the mood so I could go play outside.. because that's what loving parents do
ive been well aware of glenn greenwald for years lol
i like hairy guys
it's sensory
no you haven’t shiza you have seen his picture and read other peoples opinions of him you are completely incapable of human thought
again santino youre just showcasing youre a simpleton, no need for the retardspeak
have you ever been turned off by the way a bottom's hole looked like?
thats when being aware of someone is generally eslboo
wish i had friends
none of y'all ever had an attractive man be interested in y'all
you said “well aware” which implies more than that and you know it you fat miserable idiot why haven’t you slit your wrists yet
Mmm yes, maybe you're right, I should pursue more intellectual matters and get acquainted with the topic of tweeting about a jew sucking on niggers toes for like 3 days, this is very deep and will certainly leave a mark on the world
Im your friend sis
hes a public figure
Uhhhh I don't know what I did but yw
esl
i have a feeling francis wasnt getting a chub under his robes during this but what do i know! regardless not a fan of francis or this
i can't be friends with those i want to fuck
shiza is always giving sociopath
bottoms are dalits
tops are brahmins
you’re a miserable nothing that turned his body into a fucking punchline to attract men who have no interest in you (other than as a punchline) you’re pathetic and the sooner you kill yourself the better off we will all be
i don't have a bf
No but really, what compels someone to call another person a simpleton just because they laugh at the fact that he's being a retard for caring about a random jew sucking another man's toes?
say it 20 more times im sure it will become less boring to read
Hurt penises hurt penises. #chosekindness
bottoms be like
wish I had friends
*sexy face selfie*
*shirtless pic showing twink body*
*legs up, hole snapshot*
*on all fours, ass snapshot*
what do you really expect to attract?
This but about Glenn Greenwald sucking on negro toes
would let me know they were in the mood so I could go play outside
yeah thats called having pivacy, you fuckin retard
i care becaue he has two children in his care?
What's the vibe in here today?
i don't do any of this
it's a waste if you don't bottom at least once
Children you don't even know, jfc you're WILLINGLY dumb as fuck
malding
you're not a real bottom
how does it feel to know you did this to yourself? for NOTHING lmfao archiveofsins.com
do you really eat ass instead of using lube? what's the appeal of rimming?
lmao
i'd be their friend
Well anon, I'm right here. What are you gonna do?
you can only care about people you personally know!!
and i get called the sociopath awkayy
i am the real bottom actually
you should
you can have your privacy if you're open about it and honest, but when you try to hide your dirty sex life you're just a creep, why do you think glen only regrets the the footage was leaked to the public and not kept private.... because he knows its creepy.. he knows his actions are creepy...
im apathetic
chat is this real
no
my pictures are only reserved for my future top husband
why don't they just diet
yes, he thought that by making himself into a fat blob he would attract bisexual men (got completely shut out, except for a tranny chasing bottom)
a bunch of bottoms and troons are fighting basically
nothing, you're on the other side of the world. i don't think you're ready to bottom anyway
Yes hon, I'm sure someone who goes online on Anon Babble to mald about "nigger trannies" has genuine concern for two mixed race children across the world and totally isn't talking about their father's fetishes just because he saw it on several X posts from Eggs&SteakNationalist1488
when you try to hide your dirty sex life you're just a creep
ok retard
very dedicated hater doesnt even know the timeline
he'll marry the one who shows him hole
Where are you from?
when i start doing porn i'm going to use my real name, this entire idea of having to create some alt identity is weird to me
i don't care if my grandparents google me and see my nudes on Google images, who cares about that.
his loss :)
i like being modest
im not racist, i do recall you being though mr italian ancestry anyway enough talking to retards for one dye buhbye
can we invite Eggs&SteakNationalist1488 here
Odds moka pot
Evens French press
Dubs I go out
Trips I suck nigger toes for crack
guanzhou
also if he really wanted privacy... why did he allow the guy to record footage of him? it wasn't hidden cam footage...
Sure you aren't honey, you totally didn't record yourself saying nigger countless times
sup bishit
I'll press against your lips and give you a french kiss
That doesn't make someone racist
I don't believe you
You shut the fuck up, you're also a retard. I'm getting the feeling that all Slavs are retarded like that
That's always the funniest part of these types of leaks. Same with the destiny one. Like dude, he's pointing a camera at your face from 2' away and you're a public figure. You don't think you'll get blackmailed or have this shit leaked???
is that some kind of bisexual thing
recorded clips can also be kept for.. wait for it... private use, einstein. almost every social media and avenues allow private albums and collections for example
why not?
underrated shiza moment is when he drank a bottle of vodka and had a breakdown (because hwnbaw) while a chaser sucked on his gyno
Not sure that would wake me up tho
Not bishit but whazzup. Seems like things are certainly going around here this morning
This general is popping tf off mamas!
You really love arguing
No I don't
play world of warships with me
timur do you want to play the smash hit mmo multiplayer action arcade naval simulation game world of warships with me
Idk I don't picture a Chinese guy being around here
And you love being a retard and posting boring unoriginal shit
You're not hurting my feelings , drama queen
I would but I dont have it
imo glen wanted the world to know he's a degenerate
to expect footage like that to be kept private when hackers exist and data leaks happen is retarded
i believe friendship requires a mutual platonic agreement and if that's broken it leads to drama