Can trans men experience male loneliness?

Can trans men experience male loneliness?

No but because male loneliness is fake. Trans loneliness, however, is real.

Only the really fat ugly autistic ones

Fpbp. Guys who use the term male loneliness unironically are fucking dumb.

Unironically this makes sense. I never understood how one could be 50% of the population yet "lonely"

No afabs have built in social networks for them the second they are born they are guaranteed friends and relationships. only amabs can be truly alone and even then it’s mostly cis men

they cant even experience male awareness
i have never met an ftm that wasnt completely delusional or knew nothing about how to be a male

i once saw this tiktok of a ftm cry because she realized that men were really cold to each other and they were often lonely. lol i dont know what she was expecting pooning out

What do you mean...?
And what color were the trans men you met? If you're black you're hyper masculinized as soon as possible, the male tendencies become expected of you.

It depends on how much they pass. If they maintain their afab status, they will get attention one way or another. If they commit to the role of being a man and don't make a big deal of still having a vag, then sure they could end up lonely. Especially if they actually have a surgery penis.
So we're just ignoring statistics about relationships now? I thought Anon Babble was supposed to like polls and sociology and stuff.

I can experience regular loneliness

So we're just ignoring statistics about relationships now?

nta but I have dated many cis men and understand why they struggle in relationships. It makes sense to just call it a skill issue.

just be gay

Even if we insist on putting all the blame squarely on men like a good feminists, the relationship skill issue is still a problem. It being caused by, say, men not being taught adequate relationship skills by their fathers as kids doesn't make the loneliness epidemic fake.

Picrel. Hi btw.
Also this.
But I would also add that men have more mental illnesses that isolate them. More autists, more schizos, more suicidal people. And they are uglier compared to women...
I don't think the issue with loneliness is about *all* men.

How do we combat this male loneliness, then? Government mandated friends?

The real ugly ones I think so. Like the bloated tuna pooners or weird hairy manlets. But both those states are a choice - if a FtM chooses to actually take care of themselves to twink mode they'll get maintain most of the dating privileges of women.

The core of why most men experiencing crippling loneliness is why can't choose our body types but only small subset of potential male presentions are desirable by women. Every FtMs has the option to be a twink and people love twinks.

I thought Anon Babble was supposed to like polls and sociology and stuff.

Trans women love to dog whistle to roastie feminist rhetoric because they believe they aren't real women unless they believe everything AFABs say

they are guaranteed friends and relationships

Not if you were ugly and autistic like most of us

So we're just ignoring statistics about relationships now?

If you look at the statistics, you'll see the percentage of people who don't date is about the same for men and women. Except women make friends or just shut the fuck up, while men make loneliness a part of their identity.

You can control your weight but you can't control if you become a balding creepy uncle

make a post retarded on purpose

come back later and it's set the tone for the whole thread

haha hell yes

trans men are the true victims of male loneliness

I met a really cool woman that I wanted to be friends with, and swapped numbers with to chat (cuz I don't do social media) but because of the way I physically look, her husband made her remove me from her phone and demanded that I stop messaging her.
I wasn't after anything so I obliged but it still sucks that I'm under extra scrutiny when interacting with others and assumed to be a creep until I can prove otherwise.

Nta, but by 1. Making men look good again with more normalized fashion choices like hats and trenchcoats and shit or at least to not have fashion only be a gay thing. 2. With free therapy. 3. With more sports organizations and infrastructure and protecting nature, like what Teddy Rosevelt made. 4, to make walkable cities and infastructure less based on cars. 5. To mandate watching My Little Pony: Friendship is magic, but only the first three seasons. 6. To send more guys to college. 7. To sell average men to women more somehow. 8. To encourage pets more. 9. To make AI more realistic and online sex better. 10, to ban or punish dating apps that benefit from dates not being successful somehow. 11, to send men to war. 12, to remove women's rights without being evil to women. Somehow. Don't ask me. 13, to make a religion that encourages men to interact more. 14, to foster better fathers and male role models that aren't peterson and tate. 15, to encourage legal suicide.

Government mandated friends?

Government mandated pooner who's gonna tell you to "stop" and "be normal".

How do we combat this male loneliness, then?

But, to be serious, I think the majority of the "incels"(and whoever else claims to be part of the male loneliness epidemic) are just irredeemable. Maybe they just don't wanna fix themselves and will keep loathing others and themselves.
Maybe they are just can't get fixed, because they are too autistic for that.
But yeah, having friends will help a little, but I think women are much more capable of stopping men from spiraling into self-isolation. Unironically, a state mandated gf would turn a lot of lonely men into grass touchers.
I think any jew can get a woman to fall in love with him, even if he is ugly, since he will still be rich and well-spoken.

like bring back metrosexuality?

they are just can't get fixed

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Well no. Not if you're looking at ages between 18 to 29 who are increasingly raised by tablets. And lets assume you're right. So many men are making loneliness a part of their identity, and that's why men are lonely, even among other men. Does that not still constitute a problem to you? If other men don't want to be friends because they think of themselves as lonely, how does that erase the epidemic status of male loneliness to you?

Actually, we don't even need to start there. If men are actively CHOOSING to be lonely like feminists such as presumably yourself want to imply, then is that not still a problem? Is self-destructive behavior with side effects like greater risk of health problems and death not still an issue to you? Lets take a step back from gender. Are fat fuckers who kill themselves for completely preventable reasons (our food being shit) okay to you? Are drug addicts just hunky dory in your mind?

The queers didnt like you?