Post your nuclear hot takes on trans

you can identify trannies from their birth chart. this isnt a hot take it is just a fact.

Generally based, but there should be no gatekeeping for anyone ever. I am glad whenever a detrooner complains about irreversible damage.
Name 1 thing she said wrong other than gatekeeping.

more gatekeeping for poons

hot take

every retard on here wants this
What parts of the birth chart? I used to be into astrology but never looked into this

>The only reason that transsexuals aren't considered being intersex/DSD is because of the cis privilege

is pretty dumb. Without a cisnormative point of reference there wouldn’t even be a taxonomy to describe a bunch of people who felt like crossdressing that we saw throughout history

only industrialized white nations have ever had tolerable lives for tranners

You are so fucking retarded its not even funny

Name 1 thing she said wrong other than gatekeeping

Everything except the FTM/MTF different diagnostics.

The rest is nothing more than an opinion

If Israel has a right to exist, transsexual people deserve their own sovereign homeland

not to defend zionism or anything, but isn't the whole reason israel is where it is (as opposed to being in west alaska) because of like religious significance (being where shit in the bible happened)?
i only ask because I'm kind of curious where a transsexual homeland would even be situated... like, are we talking some island in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, or are we giving trans people an "enclave" somewhere that inevitably gets turned into a tranny warsaw ghetto with no means of contact or trade with the outside world because the united states arbitrarily decide trannyland threatens their grip on world dominance and deems every trans person a terrorist as a result while wacoing the place? (and for that matter how the hell is trannyland going to be allowed to exist without direct support from like at least one member of the g7, let alone recognition from the un? israel at least gets billions in funding from the us but how would a trans sovereign state even subside?)
and then even assuming that all of this goes well like what happens if someone has kids? are they raised as the opposite gender to their agab or is the whole place open to non-binary people? which raises the question of how would you even determine "transness" without devolving into some blanchardian bullshit and denying trans people the right to enter their homeland because they're not the right "type" of trans?
idk it seems kind of like a bad idea to me. too much risk involved.

Most North Koreans don't know what a trans person is. Hell, most of them don't even know what gay people are.

based...except for

FTMs and MTFs need entirely different diagnostic programs and treatment schedules (more gatekeeping for poons)

poons have an earlier puberty, finish growing earlier, and therefore need earlier intervention. mandatory puberty blockers for all children sounds better. this also ends up benefitting mtfs. anyone who ends up cis can just be euthanised.

no legal gender recognition

pretty much the same as uk/usa

no legal hrt

i thought you guys were "diy or die"

no legal surgeries performed in-country

most westoid countries only offer 2 hours axewounds anyways while thailand offers a 6 hour piece of pornified art

all blazing trvthbombs ily op

no legal hrt

you westoids disgust me, relying on nanny state to get 2mh spiro posion hondose after several years of waiting, meanwhile russians just get their pills or blockers at a pharmacy and transition young
trvke, also better tranny culture bc boymoding is deafult and hons are shunned

People like op are why trannies have to choose very, very wisely which one of their own they allow to get the spotlight.

FTMs and MTFs need entirely different diagnostic programs and treatment schedules (more gatekeeping for poons)

i kind of view ftms as a different species from mtfs, like i don't really understand it at all. transition/gender performance seems inherently feminine to me. like, trying hard to appear feminine is normal for women, but trying hard to appear masculine is... also actually kind of feminine? someone who tries really hard to look like a particular gender just parses as basically a woman to me, whether they're mtf or afab or andrew tate
i think people should just be free to do whatever but yeah i don't think we should be lumped in together at all, at the very least

trans acceptance relies on the ability of a trans person to pass, in other words, to trick and decieve an unsuspecting normal cis person into believing that a troon is the same sex as they are presenting.

Anon Babble coal people are kind to passoids even knowing they're trans

The only reason that transsexuals aren't considered being intersex/DSD is because of the cis privilege/identification of inter people

no it's because cis people don't take trans people seriously.
it's a disease of the mind. so they treat it like one.
where intersex is much more visible. (not always in social environments but at least in medical environments. at the very least certain tests are done to prove it)
mental health is taken much less seriously by cissoids anyway.

both are also an aberration of the norm.
intersex are sometimes anatomically ""wrong"" so they are "fixed"
and trans people claim to be anatomically wrong when they still fall under the norm, so they are repressed.

only industrialized white nations have ever had tolerable lives for tranners

ehhh
globally, neoliberalism had a phase in some industrialized countries (not always white) where trannies were like okayish.. (lots of gatekeeping/bigotry still existed)
but yeah social conservatism has been present everywhere still at least on some level, and now a recent descent into more fascism in all those countries lately.. idkkk nowhere is great rly.
i would agree that it's better tho ofc.
especially because in general there was higher QOL in less exploited countries ig, that's true..

everything has always and always will boil down to aesthetics. racism is aesthetics, transphobia is aesthetics, sexism is aesthetics, every single form of bigotry is ultimately the result of aesthetic preferences at scale. nobody would hate us if we were beautiful. the concept wouldn't even make any sense, it wouldn't be a thought that would even occur in somebody's mind. if you told it to them they would think "why does this idiot hate what is clearly beautiful and enticing? there must be something wrong with him". aesthetics is literally everything.

transphobia is one of the greatest evil in human history, and in terms of historical aggregate, was worse than the literal holocaust

holocaust was one event of a horrible evil committed on such a massive industrialized scale.
but it's not the "greatest evil" there ever is in history.. there have been more mass genocides before (and after) that don't get talked about as much unfortunately. that's not to diminish the holocaust but to recognize all the other evils that get erased.
also the holocaust included queer people. so like.. yeah that's kinda obvious?
holocaust + everything else they suffered throughout history > holocaust
(and many pink triangles were not rescued/put right back into the hell..)
so yeah that one is obvious..

tranners in the 1990s had PTSD rates equivalent to literal holocaust survivors (VA stat). This was before the attempt at stochastic genocide. If Israel has a right to exist, transsexual people deserve their own sovereign homeland

if this is serious:
WHAT??? NO???
israel using the holocaust to justify their own atrocities is completely immoral. what??
it's WRONG they do this..

FTMs and MTFs need entirely different diagnostic programs and treatment schedules (more gatekeeping for poons)

no. ew. kys.

it's not immoral to lie to cis people

it's not immoral to lie to anyone if there are good outcomes for all parties.

a significant amount of transphobia is due in part to our threat of exposing cis women's unexamined privilege and domination of society

what privileges??? like cis women have over cis men? (are you a misogynist?)
or cis women have over trans women (cis privilege is real yes)

like.. men and women both benefit and suffer under the patriarchy in different ways. but women do suffer more.
i would agree trannies don't rly get any benefits either way (unless they gigastealth ofc then it's just what the cissoid of their respective gender has at most)

but no cis women don't rly "dominate" society what???

we should find the biological roots of dysphoria, so we can design WMDs that target people without it

Truth Nuke more like Cis Nuke heh

trans people have almost nothing in common with cis, even with cis gays

nah there is a lot of community overlap. If you really want to consider trans history (like you have for the holocaust opinion). There is a massive overlap.
Our current cultures understanding of transness hasn't always existed either, so "trans people" in the past might have seen themselves in the ways their culture explained it.

resistance to child transition is due in part to cis people's revulsion to beauty

imo i think it's more just culture war bait to get reactionary emotionally driven idiots to imagine their own child being chopped up by doctors.
whether that be some TERF obsessed with reproductive organs, parents who are kinda dumb and think children are property, or pedophiles.

like "women", and "children", are very emotionally loaded words so you can use that to drive a lot of movements
(hence why it's usually "think of the little girls they are mutilating. think of the young FERTILE women" more than "think of the men.")

so it's rly easy to make it into an issue..

no. ew. kys

theyfab detected

If you speak like (loud, boisterous), and have the cadence of a man I will never in a million years think you are an actual transsexual woman.

Personality is "set in stone" for you somewhere between the ages of 6-10. Even if you were forced to confirm it doesn't make a difference; there are no amount of words one can say to change someone's nature.

This just sounds like youve never been a part of any minority group before becoming a tranny

i'M NOT A THEYFAAAAABBBB!!!!! reeeee

I'm just not a cissoid bootlicker.
1 cissoid idiot making a mistake is not worth gatekeeping 1000 trans people.

Doesn't matter if they are mtf or ftm. 0 gatekeeping.
you cannot trust cissoids with that power. (these are the same ppl who make trans women 8y on hrt who live as a woman full time. To go to 20 psychs and get 8 letters of approval all to just wait 6mo to prove they are defs gigatrutrans before they can even think of getting approved for surgery etc.)

just education on what HRT will do.
the doctors will walk you through every step. maybe on video would be good too.
with you verbally agreeing with everything and how you were not cooerced and this is 100% of your own volition.

in this case the doctor will tell you: deep voice, hair everywhere, ass hair, you will not look anime, you're gonna get fat if you don't work out, you will have acne, more muscle mass, you'll smell like a man, you'll get horny like a man, etc

and you have to sign a contract that you understand this and that you will not pursue anti-trans politics (again on recording)

Like again, 1 trans person getting the care they need is worth 1000 cissoid idiots making a mistake.

1 cissoid idiot making a mistake is not worth gatekeeping 1000 trans people.

i have this backwards the first time oops.. i meant
1000 cissoid idiot making a mistake is not worth gatekeeping 1 trans person...
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Aren't trans women in Thailand forced into sex work and required to be recognized as male for life? I doubt their health care is covered by insurance either.

All Thailand has is that the authorities look the other way for prostitution and they have a historical tradition of forcing marginalized "third gender" people into it.

I know things have been getting somewhat better for Thailand trans lately but I thought that civil rights stuff was just following in the footsteps of the west

Yeah like what
Fuedal Japan was great for tranners

resistance to child transition is due in part to cis people's revulsion to beauty

a significant amount of transphobia is due in part to our threat of exposing cis women's unexamined privilege and domination of society

The only reason that transsexuals aren't considered being intersex/DSD is because of the cis privilege/identification of inter people

these ones are trvth clvster nvkes

TRVTH MIRV

I want.to have sex with transgender child

"transfem" is actually probably the most accurate word for a tranny, but nobody wants to use it because of the association with cringe reddit/xitter transbians

post your nuclear hot takes on trans

I acknowledge three types of transgenderism: mental illness (dysmorphia), fetish (autogynephilia), and a social construction/contamination (femboys, etc).
I'm fine with all of this and think they're all perfectly valid states of being/existence.
I say this in the capacity that WESTERN SOCIETY has already very clearly established several cultural societal standards: we don't incinerate retards, we have freedom of religion/thought (and the freedom to be protected from other's religion/thoughts), and what consenting adults do in the bedroom is between them, so to me this entire exchange has always been a thinly veiled backtracking of morals/ethics. Everyone was fine with cutting their dick off and imaginary pronouns when it was for Judaism. Everyone was fine with bending over backwards for people with Alzheimer's, schizophrenia, autism, etc.. We even elected a president with dementia, but somehow none of this is relevant for trannies.

My second nuclear take is that looking normal and/or being pretty is, "unfortunately", the only thing that will legitimize the belief/practice of transgenders, femboys, autogynos, in the public's eye. You cannot be ugly. You *have* to be presentable. You HAVE to take care of yourself. This is the mutual reality we both have to live with.
Let me make it clear that nobody expects you to be a model; nobody is measuring the length of your fingers, the distance of your shoulders to your waist, or the shape of your head, but you absolutely cannot exist as a man in a summer dress.