So i'm a mormon with three tranny wives living in Utah.
It's really frustrating.The church doesn't recognize polygamy anymore so I'm part of an off shoot.
I have such beautiful wives and I know one day they will all birth me many spirit babies when we are gods.
I also have one regular wife who's my cover and my other wives are great at helping us raise our seven kids.
Life is good and you should definitely join the faith!!!
As a tranny also in Utah, I find this incredibly hard to believe. All the trannies are in SLC (and Draper), and most of us in this state are lesbians. I'm a straight tranner, but I'm also non-religious. So why are you making all this up anon?
I'm not making it up, There are more tranny mormons then you know many of them are in offshoots.
You also know that the church has pushed for protections against Is housing discrimination for lgbt people among other policies.
They're not as accepting in their own structure but generally they've supported it for the community and we're working to change that to make it even better.
You're missing out by being a dirty atheist.
You're only going to get the terrestrial kingdom when you could be a god.
You also know that the church has pushed for protections against housing discrimation for lgbt people among other policies
Then explain this
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Your religion was also founded by a man who had sex with a 13 year old girl whilst he was married, and died in prison. I was raised Mormon. It's a cult in every sense
this is how i got my book of mormon
love how it goes right to naming the J's within the 1st paragraph.
stop calling me.
First off yes within the church there are problems with acceptance however it's been getting better and they have even pushed to protect gay marriage.
She was 14 and he didn't have sex with her, the marriage was for other spiritual reasons.
The Tanners made great mileage out of Joseph Smith's marriage to his youngest wife, Helen Mar Kimball. However, they failed to mention that I wrote that there is absolutely no evidence that there was any sexuality in the marriage, and I suggest that, following later practice in Utah, there may have been no sexuality. (p. 638) All the evidence points to this marriage as a primarily dynastic marriage. [2] In other words, polygamous marriages often had other purposes than procreation—one such purpose was likely to tie faithful families together, and this seems to have been a purpose of Joseph's marriage to the daughter of a faithful Apostle. (See: Law of Adoption.) Critics who assume plural marriage "is all about sex" may be basing their opinion on their own cultural biases and assumptions, rather than upon the actual motives of Church members who participated in the practice.
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Gay marriage is irrelevant to me as a trans woman, not a gay man, or lesbian woman, as the law recognizes me as a woman.
If Mormonism is here to defend Queer people as well, why did our governor sign into law HB77? Spencer Cox is Mormon, is he not? He used to be decently supportive of us, but then he got Trump money. I'd like to remind you that HB77 is the entire reason that Sundance is leaving Park City for Boulder, Colorado.
No, the first paragraph of the Book of Mormon, the title page, does not specifically "call out" the Jews. It states the book is an abridgment written to "the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel; and also to Jew and Gentile". While it acknowledges the Jewish lineage, it doesn't isolate them for criticism or condemnation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Title Page Context:
The title page of the Book of Mormon introduces it as an abridgment of records of the people of Nephi and the Lamanites.
"Remnant of the House of Israel":
The Lamanites are identified as descendants of the house of Israel, which includes the Jewish people.
Audience:
The book is also written to "Jew and Gentile," indicating a broader audience that includes both Jewish and non-Jewish individuals.
No Specific Condemnation:
The first paragraph doesn't specifically criticize or condemn the Jewish people.
Emphasis on All Humanity:
The Book of Mormon's purpose, as stated in the title page, is to bring "Jew and Gentile" to the belief that Jesus is the Christ.
That article is almost a decade old and doesn't hold up.
then you woke up
If you look on this thread they have also pushed for anti discrimination legislation for transgender people.
The legislation, HB 77, “Flag Display Amendments,” limits the display of flags. Under the new law, flags for the United States, other countries, state governments and their subdivisions, the university, the Olympic Winter Games, Native American tribes and veteran or POW recognitions would be allowed.
This does not stop you from flying flags on your own private property And it is not appropriate to fly every flag on government property that is for everyone.
Nobody is entitled to have flags flown and it affects your life in no way at all.
This is absolutely petty.
i said it names the j in the first paragaph.
which it does.
It doesn't effect my life, but it effects people people like at the University of Utah, doctors can't put up trans pride flags, despite the fact that a good portion of the University's health department is the care of transgender people, as this state weirdly has some of the best trans care in the country. People are pissed about HB77 and there was an entire protest about it you absolute dimwit.
youre even using air quotes and "call out" like its something i said.
when all i said is that it names the j right in the 1st paragraph
idk why you people are so mentally tapped.
take it at face value.
it is what it is.
Effective from December 31, 2023 - Utah will implement "strong, clear and robust" consumer privacy legislation for both individuals and businesses. The legislation explicitly include "sexual orientation" within the list of protections.[72]
I can go on for a while.
Things aren't perfect but generally have gotten better.
That's over a year ago at this point. Things have likely changed.
You said it yourself they can still help them, displaying those flags doesn't make it easier for people to access the care.
Your grasping at straws.
You're treated better than ninety nine percent of the world in this state and you should be a little more grateful.
But it would make them feel seen. I started at the U for trans care, I now see Luuikenaar as many other trannies do, and fortunately the law doesn't effect their practice. The fact you're defending a law that made Sundance pull out of Utah after nearly four decades is just depressing though.
You are provided no proof that that has been repealed which it hasn't.
There are issues i'm not even denying that but denying the progress is also wrong.
You're coming off as desperate.
why do troons make up so much shit on this board? its really pathetic
I wake up to my happy wives every day yes.
I'm willing to humor you anon. I live in Utah, and have till Thursday off from work. You wanna email me where you live so I can see you and your "wives"? I'll take UTA.
People should look for validation from the people they care about and from within not some piece of fabric.
Pulling out because you cannot display a piece of fabric is a moral fault on the person pulling out.
I never pull out of my wives because I love them.
Healthcare In this state is still fantastic.
fine i took a picture of it..
chapter 1..
already getting persecuted by the j's.
I still find my way into official mormon temples to baptize the dead. I don't want to be found out otherwise I won't be able to free more people from spirit prison.
The can't know i'm part of an off shoot.
It would be a big risk for me to meet you You understand that?
Healthcare in this state is still fantastic
Select Health just dropped CVS as coverage at the start of the year, the biggest insurance company in the state pulling out of the nation's largest pharmacy. Medicaid also restricts patient access to medication to a 30 day supply and doesn't cover dental work at all.
You don't even understand what you're reading go away.
In 2025, Utah ranks #5 among states with the best healthcare according to WalletHub and #14 in terms of overall healthcare according to MoneyGeek.com. Other sources rank Utah as high as #6 for overall health and well-being.
What are you talking about? I wouldn't leak anything. There'd be nothing for me to leak, you're just one member out of thousands in a cult.
I'm not saying it isn't good, I'm just saying it's not as fantastic as you make it out to be.
its clearly chapter 1 prophesizing the messiah, destruction of jerusalem and both of them are persecuted by jews 630 somewhat years apart from eachother.
i have a better concept of its talking about than you do.
You would leak that I'm part of an offshoot that recognizes my marriages to multiple trans women.
I'm still part of the main line church who actually have temples and if you're mormon you understand why that matters.
Also, you insult me by calling me a part of a cult and you think i'm going to humor you with an interview?
I wouldn't leak anything. I'm a trans woman myself, I'd gain nothing by leaking it. If anything I'd be putting my career on the line. I'm not a journalist.
I was raised Mormon, I left the church when I was 12. I apologize, it's just my general views on the faith. I have a former co-worker whom is a Mormon, and she blindly followed the faith without ever questioning it, and it made me upset frankly. She never seemed to think for herself.
mormon boi isnt even real.
everyone that knows mormonism deeply and gotten away is def redpilled beyond anything mormon boi is capable of grasping.
In 1 Nephi 1, Nephi records his father Lehi's prophecy regarding the destruction of Jerusalem. Lehi, having read from a book of prophecy, states that Jerusalem will be destroyed, its inhabitants will perish by the sword, and many will be carried away captive to Babylon.
It's not the jews doing the persecuting there.
the jews literally persecuted him for saying that just liek they did to jesus.
nothing happened to the jews.
You seem to be deeply bigoted against mormons.
Mormonphobia Has only been growing in the last few decades.
Why would you be putting your career on the line?
It's difficult hiding this from the church And I don't wanna take the risk.
Maybe if I got to know you better idk... I'd have to consult with my wives...
You know I also risk being exposed for polygamy which is illegal...
I almost had an outburst at you but i'm going to ask you politely to go away.
This conversation is above your head dear.
That's as nice as I can be, I need to work on myself to be kinder.
You can email me here if you want to talk:
I would be putting my career on the line because I live in Utah, and, if I were to show I was persecuting a Mormon and his family, my career would be finished. I'd be canceled, and would probably be unable to find work in the state.
I'm not bigoted against Mormons, I, in general have a deep problem with organized religion as a whole.
Yeah but I would be considered a heretic and not in good standing with many.
Plus you would be exposing me for an illegal practice of having multiple wives.
I really don't know who would be cancelling you.
The woke would be happy to see a mormon suffering and Church angry at me..
Organized religion is important for humanity, It is not perfect but no human institution is.
I'm hoping one of our prophets can guide us In the right way to go.
I'll talk with my wives and maybe reach out.
Once again, I wouldn't leak it, the whole reason I offered to take UTA rather than driving is that way there's no way I can bring anything such as artillery or anything to hurt you or your family. Not that I would if I were driving, but the point remains the same. I have nothing to gain, but everything to lose in this situation. If you are who you say you are, I will take it at face value and accept that you and your family have a lovely home together.
Organized religion is important for humanity, It is not perfect but no human institution is.
My main problem is that it influences politics. This entire country was founded on separation of church and state, but it was quickly dismantled only nearly a century later by what are now modern day Republicans, using their holy book to discriminate and enslave Black people, and persecute them further. See lynchings, exclusion from the workforce, and public spaces, such as "Colored Only" bathrooms and water fountains.
so which one of you is devon.
Not me.
Most of that was not done primarily on a religious basis in any way.
Some people justified it that way however the people who advocated for the abolition Of slavery were primarily christian.
Civil rights was led by a black preacher.
Even joseph smith denounced slavery even if we do have other issues in our church's past surrounding race that were fixed in the nineteen seventies and eighties.
Modern day Republicans are not doing anything that you attribute to them, this is projection.
You've been brainwashed by the woke mind virus.
Republicans only gain more and more minority votes each election.
The majority of hispanic men voted for trump this last election.
I'm going to bed.
Everyone behave themselves here.
sometimes i send homosexual lewds of myself with the book of mormon to strangers on the internet.
Please... Please be respectful.
I would be just as upset if you did this in a straight way.
Please do not make porn with our holy book...
The people who advocated for the abolition of slavery were primarily Christian
Yes, and Abe Lincoln wasn't the holy prophet people claim he was. He freed slaves because he didn't want black people in the country.
Joseph Smith was supremely racist, your book literally calls black people those who were punished by God for sin and some other stuff, my history on that part isn't up to date.
The majority of hispanic men voted for trump this last election.
And how's that turning out for them now with countless Hispanic people being deported, and sent to El Salvador, many of whom are also here legally?
While Lincoln publicly stated his primary goal was preserving the Union, his views on slavery were more nuanced. He did believe slavery was morally wrong and eventually used the Emancipation Proclamation to free slaves in Confederate territory. However, he also prioritized the preservation of the Union and initially focused on military action to achieve that goal, even if it meant continuing slavery in some areas.
Joseph Smith publicly denounced slavery, though his stance was nuanced. In his 1844 presidential campaign platform, he condemned the institution, calling for the "break down [of] slavery" and the liberation of enslaved people, according to the National Park Service.
I've already theologically understood.What was meant and the churches open to everyone. This article can clarify misconceptions.
Nobody is being sent to el salvador who is a US Citizen.
One of my wives is hispanic and her whole family love trump more than ever now.
Generally he will continue to see more support from that community.
Nobody is being sent to el salvador who is a US Citizen.
Kimar Abrego Garcia.
The Trump administration has even admitted they made a mistake with him, but are refusing to bring him back.
I read the article you linked, it's basically a bunch of damage control. I'd like to tell you a story I had with two young Mormon missionairy boys 2 years ago
Helping a friend move
Some Mormon missionary boys, can't be older than 19 come and ask if we want help
I tell them no
Friend says sure though
Roll my eyes and let them help
Get everything done, and they ask if they can preach from the Book of Mormon to us
One of them says something like "Well, I just, I know God is real because did you know if we were 10 feet closer to the sun, we'd all burn up, but if we were 10 feet away we'd freeze to death? Isn't that amazing?"
This is where I had to chime in
Used this article to completely disprove them
sciencefocus.com
They suddenly say to me
You don't have to be rude about it. We're just trying to have faith.
Reply to them "The problem with your faith is that is it's built on racist tradition and says that women should be essentially subservient to a male "master". You need to do more research on your own book.
They leave about 5 minutes later or so.
This exchange ended up with my friend and I getting into an argument, but I don't regret what I did.
i already came to you, anon.
now im eating pickles
(kosher)
Kilmar Abrego Garcia was not a U.S. citizen. He was a citizen of El Salvador who entered the United States illegally in 2011. In 2019, he was granted "withholding of removal" status by a U.S. immigration judge, which allowed him to live and work legally in the U.S. due to the danger he faced from gang violence in El Salvador. This status, however, did not confer U.S. citizenship.
You are objectively wrong here, even though it was a mistake which is gonna happen he is not objectively a US citizen.
My article debunked you, cry more about it. You're showing your anti mormon bigotry.
Also your little story exposes your bigotry for being so cruel to some random kids.
You're every bit as hateful as you claim others to be. Newsflash for you buddy, the church is majority non white and growing in africa.
Women being mothers is their natural role and they literally maintain the world thanks to it.
I have seven kids while you probably have one or none. You will be outcompeted by superior mormon breeding among other groups.
Mormon women are some of the happiest most fulfilled people on this planet and they don't want to be miserable like your worldview would make them on the whole.
I recommend a book called the religious inherent the earth. It breaks down why Is your mindset destroys civilizations and makes you objectively less happy.
You can keep looking down on us and hating us But we're going to Make a better world for everyone.
Respectfully I did not want to know that.
The seven kids thing makes me know this is a LARP. Trans women can't get pregnant, and I highly doubt you were able to adopt seven children.
OP is a known namefag called "conservative boi" who makes regular retarded politically-based gooner threads
Go and read the messages again. I mentioned I had one biological female wife.
Three trans wives and one bio women life.
I recognize them as women tho, that's how they were born in the pre existence.
They went through the veil of forgetfulness and now remember the gender they were always meant to be.
I know about that person and I find them funny.
I chose this name to honor them although I haven't seen them here lately.
cant you just be normal
If I was normal I wouldn't become a god so no:)