How do I get a trans girlfriend as a straight cis male?

why is it so scary? it's a perfectly natural thing to do. i like having sex with boys and they seem to like having sex with me

Because I don't have a single clue what I'm doing.

I don't even know how to kiss a girl. Let alone do anything more.

I don't know what I'd even do in the bedroom. I wouldn't know how to position myself, what motions to make, or how to do anything. I'd be so scared and self-conscious about doing something wrong.

well it's a natural thing so you just let your instincts take over. there's not really anything wrong as long as you don't like hurt us somehow, and you can talk about what feels good with your partner.
i think you need to find a girl to have sex with

well it's a natural thing so you just let your instincts take over.

I don't know if I really have instincts. Like of course I feel attraction to women and that is often sexual. But I don't have any instinctual knowledge of what to do. Put me in a room with a woman I'm attracted to, both of us naked, with her inviting me to have relations with her, and I simply would freeze and not know what to do.

i think you need to find a girl to have sex with

I don't think it's possible. Girls just don't like me. I have gone my entire lifespan without even one (1) singular girl ever expressing romantic interest in me.

you hate men (youre a man)
see women as "superior"
youre most scared of women thinking youre weird or creepy to an extreme degree that not even the most respectful woman loving men could match without feeling a certain way about masculinity (dysphoria)

And yet you didnt answer the question. Curious

you hate men (youre a man)

Why is that bad?

see women as "superior"

Ok? They are.

youre most scared of women thinking youre weird or creepy to an extreme degree that not even the most respectful woman loving men could match without feeling a certain way about masculinity (dysphoria)

I don't think masculinity is attractive or desirable in any way. But I am masculine. I can't change what I am, nor do I have any desire to.

I don't need to answer questions about my private sexual preferences.

you should kiss and hug her and then maybe touch her body in other places. eventually you can start on the breasts and then maybe touch her private parts and possibly play with her clit or begin to finger her.
at that point maybe try licking her nipples or cunnilingus.
she will respond and touch your body and hug and kiss you and probably try to play with your penis or possibly put it in her mouth.
once you are both aroused enough it is likely you will progress to sex.

also you've mentioned several girls who seemed to like you including one who tried to have sex with you.

i believe we are superior but i don't think men should be thinking this way so i wonder if is right

you should kiss and hug her and then maybe touch her body in other places. eventually you can start on the breasts and then maybe touch her private parts and possibly play with her clit or begin to finger her.

But what if I do any of those things wrong?

What if I kiss her wrong? What if I don't move my hands correctly when touching her?

It's just so hard. If I screw anything up, I will be humiliated and she will think I'm pathetic.

also you've mentioned several girls who seemed to like you including one who tried to have sex with you.

Wrong. No woman has ever expressed romantic interest in me.

I don't think masculinity is desirable in any way. But I am masculine. I can't change what I am

lmao how can you say this and then wonder why people call you a repper? maybe you dont want to be a woman, but you certainly dont want to be a man either youre just coping telling yourself its ogre because you werent born female
typical trans thoughts

lmao how can you say this and then wonder why people call you a repper? maybe you dont want to be a woman, but you certainly dont want to be a man either youre just coping telling yourself its ogre because you werent born female

I didn't say any of that though? It's not "over" because I wasn't born female. I just wasn't born female. I am a man. If I wasn't a man, I would be a completely different person. I am me. I don't want to be anyone other than myself.

But none of that means I need to have a positive view of my gender. Men are disgusting, hairy, smelly, obnoxious creatures. I'm not proud to be one.

that's not even true. if a guy does something i don't like or i wish he was doing something else i either tell him or gently guide his hand where i wish it was. especially with a new partner it's normal to need to learn what each other likes. nobody is going to think you are pathetic
more and more i am thinking you want to be a girl

that's not even true. if a guy does something i don't like or i wish he was doing something else i either tell him or gently guide his hand where i wish it was.

I just don't believe that would happen for me.

If I had relations with a woman and fucked something up, I would feel so ashamed and embarrassed... I'd feel like I had to walk away and never speak to her again, because she'd never view me in the same way again.

I remember, for instance, once talking to this girl at a party who I THOUGHT was in to me. She seemed fascinated with me and was touching me a lot mid-conversation. Then, things started to change. She must have got bored with my conversation. She told me it felt like I was "giving her a lecture". I felt so embarrassed I completely ceased talking to her and walked away ASAP.

more and more i am thinking you want to be a girl

That's nonsensical.

It's more like simply having an admiration for the female gender.

Imagine if you were, say, American, and you hated being American, but you really love French culture and admire the culture of France. You will never be French, and you don't have any desire to be French, but that doesn't stop you loving them and their culture.

i love french people but i am not afraid to talk to one or have sex with one
if a guy walked away from me while i was trying to talk to him i would be really weirded out but also would go find a different guy. like obviously you don't want to talk to me. there is no reason to run away from women.
also lots of men admire women but you seem to have a special problem with us.

if a guy walked away from me while i was trying to talk to him i would be really weirded out but also would go find a different guy. like obviously you don't want to talk to me. there is no reason to run away from women.

But I did want to talk to her. It's just pointless to continue to talk to her when she clearly thinks I'm pathetic and embarrassing.

i feel like a lot of your trouble is that you convince yourself that you're not worthy of talking to us. if we were in person could we even by having this conversation or would my female body scare you?
i wonder if your low self esteem comes from a place of dysphoria

i feel like a lot of your trouble is that you convince yourself that you're not worthy of talking to us.

I'm not. Every time I talk to a woman I do get a subconscious feeling which tells me "you are lesser, you are subordinate to her, you need to be as careful as fucking possible to not displease her".

if we were in person could we even by having this conversation or would my female body scare you?

I doubt it. I get very awkward around women. I get sweaty, jittery, shakey, etc.

i wonder if your low self esteem comes from a place of dysphoria

No.

well i am a woman. it's interesting how you can talk to me knowing that but would only be scared if you could see me.
why do you think you are lesser than us though? as much as i like female supremacy in principle it seems to be harming you...

well i am a woman. it's interesting how you can talk to me knowing that but would only be scared if you could see me.

I think it's because there aren't any real indicators of your femininity on an anonymous imageboard.

On other websites which are account-based, I struggle to talk to women because they have a more coherent digital personality. I can see and be aware of the fact that they are women.

why do you think you are lesser than us though?

I don't really know. I just get that feeling constantly.

Interacting with women is a huge task for me. I am constantly in fear of embarrassing myself and making her think I'm pathetic. Literally even just walking to the local store and talking to a female cashier makes me feel humiliated. I walk away thinking "she must think I'm disgusting, and ugly, and repulsive" and feel horrible as a result.

I'm not proud to be a man

you dont need to be "proud" but youre repulsed by it
this whole "I wouldnt want to be anyone else" thing doesnt work when you hate yourself so much for being a man
you cant even say whats wrong with you other than youre a man and you think of yourself as a lower being
it is all about your gender

Assuming you aren't a chaser, its really hard to come across like you aren't a chaser as a cishet man when trying to find a trans gf. Basically just act fucking normal, compliment her, defend her. We really like it when people stick up for us because that doesn't happen in our lives like ever

do you have low self esteem in other contexts or is it just with women?

this whole "I wouldnt want to be anyone else" thing doesnt work when you hate yourself so much for being a man

Eh, it's wrong to say I "hate myself for being a man".

There are other men who do a lot better than me.

I don't think men are desirable at all. But I have a unique problem that I am unable to perform the necessary behaviors as a man to make women attracted to me.

it is all about your gender

No. Stop trying to force shit on me.

I am not a chaser.

I am not a chaser.

Great then just follow what I said above and it'll go great, you can find transwomen in your area on dating apps or something idk just be careful of murderous liars etc etc

op, having read your replies, i feel much the same as you.

but the difference is that i'm not cis.

i'm masculine, i hate myself for being masculine. i feel immense guilt and shame whenever i talk to women. i feel as though most people -- not just women, really, but the feeling does seem a little worse around women for some reason -- dislike my presence.

separately from that, i've rationalized that i'm dysphoric because of my history of hating my masculine traits that began developing during puberty. i don't want to say that "there's a chance you're trans" or anything, because i hate transvestigative bullshit. but i'm very similar to you based on what you've said so far, and i am, despite not having transitioned yet for reasons that aren't really relevant and would detract from your thread.

it took me a while to figure it out.

I just don't have any desire to be anything other than what I am.

I wouldn't make a good woman anyway. I'm balding, I have a very masculine face and figure, a very deep voice, etc.

You are allowed to be happy, its up to you to take accountability for your mental health.

If you rely on other people to tell you how to fix your problems, they wont be solved.

I hope you figure out whats best for you. <3

it's interesting how you keep going there instead of "i don't want to be a woman"

If I was born a woman, that would be cool.

But I wasn't. I'm a man. If I wasn't a man, I would be someone else entirely, I wouldn't be me.

You aren't ever going to get me to say "I love being a manly man and being a hairy, sweaty, smelly creature lumbering all over the place". Because I don't.

you are deep into repression

You are delusional. Stop projecting yourself on other people. I will never be what you want me to be.

you literally just said you wish you were born a woman and that you don't like being a man

you literally just said you wish you were born a woman

No I didn't? Oh my god. Can you fucking read? Point me to where I ever said "I wish I was born a woman".

and that you don't like being a man

Because I don't like men in general.

I don't think ANYONE should like being a man. Because men are fucking garbage.

nobody should be a man

I knew it was bad but not this bad.
also btw if you really believe this why would any girl ever want to date you when we could just be lesbians instead

If I was born a woman, that would be cool.

no cis men feels like this
youre a repressed transgender woman
and youre not a true women lover either your adulation for women stems directly from misandry and self hatred because of that misandry

>nobody should be a man

I knew it was bad but not this bad.

I didn't say that.
Of course there are men. And that shouldn't change. I'm just saying we shouldn't be proud to be men.

also btw if you really believe this why would any girl ever want to date you when we could just be lesbians instead

A very good point. I've often thought that if I were a woman, I would 100% be a lesbian. Men are disgusting and sickening and I don't understand why anybody would ever be attracted to us.

But, the fact is, not all woman are lesbians. Most aren't. So I obviously keep seeking female approval.

no cis men feels like this

Ok, well I'm a cis man and I feel like that. I guess I'm breaking new ground.

youre a repressed transgender woman

Nope. Nice fanfiction though. But I'd be the worst excuse for a "woman" ever.

and youre not a true women lover

I am, I adore women. I think about them for a huge part of my day-to-day life. Seeing an amazing woman still makes me get butterflies in my stomach like I'm a teenager seeing his crush.

I've often thought that if I were a woman, I would 100% be a lesbian

repper

not all woman are lesbians. Most aren't. So I obviously keep seeking female approval

what if a woman told you theyd only date you if you transitioned and lived like a woman?

>I've often thought that if I were a woman, I would 100% be a lesbian

repper

Coper.
You know it's extremely weird and creepy to try to force other people to change their lifestyle to suit what you want?

what if a woman told you theyd only date you if you transitioned and lived like a woman?

I wouldn't do it. That's humiliating. I would assume any woman asking me to do that has some kind of sick fetish or something.

I wonder if she actually likes men and that’s why she is so confused what to do with women
You should be proud to be men. You are cute and capable of making us feel really good just by being around us.
We are not lesbians because men actually aren’t so gross. You are projecting.
if you are a cis man why do you wish you were born a woman and see maleness as a curse

Okay so what is this thread about
You asked how to find a girlfriend then declared that no women would ever talk to you and then somehow changed the subject to “am I trans”
What were you hoping to accomplish

That's humiliating

how come?

I wonder if she actually likes men and that’s why she is so confused what to do with women

I mean, seeing how "he" wants someone to take over and basically completely dominate "him" in bed I wouldnt be surprised lol

I wonder if she actually likes men and that’s why she is so confused what to do with women

Calling me "she" is a mockery intended to humiliate me and make me feel pathetic.

You are an extremely cruel and sadistic individual for doing this.

You should be proud to be men. You are cute and capable of making us feel really good just by being around us.

Men are not "cute". "Cute" is the exact opposite of what men are. We are ugly, brutish, rough, coarse-looking people.

We are not lesbians because men actually aren’t so gross. You are projecting.

We are extremely gross. Women smell of flowers and nice fragrances. Men smell like shit and body odour. This is objectively correct.

if you are a cis man why do you wish you were born a woman and see maleness as a curse

I have never, ever, ever said the words "I wish I was born a woman". You are lying and putting words in my mouth.

I mean, seeing how "he" wants someone to take over and basically completely dominate "him" in bed I wouldnt be surprised lol

Why is that bad though?

Why does that make me not a man?

Yes, I do want a woman to take charge over me. I want her to grab my face and kiss me. I want her to strip my clothes off and have her way with me.

Why is that bad? I know it's an unrealistic fantasy, but it's what I want.

Calling me "she" is a mockery intended to humiliate me and make me feel pathetic.

its this because it makes you feel emasculated or because you wish you lived in a world where you could call yourself that and be happy youre the thing you love the most?
you call yourself pathetic and disgusting all the time so whats different about calling you a she?

making us feel really good just by being around us

Only men feel this way out of women, never the other way around.

you call yourself pathetic and disgusting all the time so whats different about calling you a she?

Because I am not worthy of that title.

It's like looking at a disgusting, stinking, hideous ogre and calling it a "cute little kitten".

It's just wrong.

not bad at all I get it honestly
but it is either girly, fetishistic or youre a manchild that wants a mom instead of a partner

Literally everyone I know calls me she are you saying they are humiliating me? It’s not humiliating to be a woman. I would think you would get this due to your adoration of us
Men are cute and I like looking at them. My brain has special receptors for their smell and it smells good and can make me horny.
is where you wished to be a woman

ebay

Literally everyone I know calls me she are you saying they are humiliating me? It’s not humiliating to be a woman. I would think you would get this due to your adoration of us

When did I ever insinuate it's humiliating to be a woman?

It's the opposite, being a woman is excellent and elevates you to a higher social standard.

But calling someone who is blatantly not a woman "she" is clearly meant to be an insult. It's mockery. You know that you aren't telling the truth when you call me that.

Men are cute and I like looking at them. My brain has special receptors for their smell and it smells good and can make me horny.

Men are not cute. Are you mentally ill or something? Looking at men and thinking they're cute or that they "smell good" is some insane nonsense. Do you need professional mental help?

Straight girls aren’t going to do this to you but if you were a lesbian…
oh god I knew it
It’s not “women are lesser and you called me one”
It’s “I am lesser because I am not a woman and you mocked me by pretending I am”

you seem pretty comfortable being mean to this woman why is that?

so what about yourself makes you want to be you and not someone else?

Straight girls aren’t going to do this to you but if you were a lesbian…

Why not though?

Why won't straight girls do that to me?

It just doesn't seem fair. Is being a submissive man that wrong?

It’s “I am lesser because I am not a woman and you mocked me by pretending I am”

Yes? Why is that wrong?

I'm not being mean. And she was mean to me first anyway.

I called you she as a courtesy because I think you want to become one of us. And nothing you’ve said in response has changed that opinion. In fact it’s stronger now than ever

Do you need professional mental help?

I’m a straight woman why would you expect me not to like men and everything about their bodies
Because she can’t see my tits obviously
Realistically probably because I’ve been responding to her threads for years

Because me is me.

Why would I want to be anyone other than myself?

you dont like yourself very much though
not your body, not your gender, not your personality (all that anxiety) so why wouldnt you want to be someone else?

I called you she as a courtesy because I think you want to become one of us. And nothing you’ve said in response has changed that opinion. In fact it’s stronger now than ever

It sounds more like you invented a headcanon and now you want to stick to it because you get off on it or something.

I’m a straight woman why would you expect me not to like men and everything about their bodies

Because it's retarded. It's like looking at shit and remarking how beautiful it is. Just nonsense.

Realistically probably because I’ve been responding to her threads for years

Nah. You weren't there when I was making threads on Anon Babble circa 2017-2019. You weren't there when I was in my Anon Babble golden age back in 2012. You don't know me.

It’s not the reason most men would be unhappy being called she and that’s revealing

yeah youd think it was an emasculation thing but nope! its all about not feeling worthy of womanhood 100% a repper

where are you located and what kind looks are you working with

You want us to date you yet you call yourself shit when we express an attraction to men
No I wasn’t on those boards but you’ve been here a while which is interesting in itself

I'm not going to dox myself.

Who you're attracted to isn't my problem.

If you like men, that hypothetically benefits me, but that doesn't mean I have to understand it.

nta but im from midwest and my looks are mid, but not really "ugly"

that hypothetically benefits me

it benefits all the real men that will keep dating the girls you love so much*

So now you're really trying to insult me? Fuck off.

Nice fanfiction, retards.

Hang around anime conventions.

I could do that, but it doesn’t mean any girls would pay attention to me.