Is it good optics to have 6'2 hons brutalizing women with a claymore the size of their entire body like a dark souls...

Is it good optics to have 6'2 hons brutalizing women with a claymore the size of their entire body like a dark souls boss?

how many times in your life have you thought about HEMA before this happened

Nta but maybe 20

Chuds love HEMA

bio holes BTFO
get good, losers

no, this photo alone should get xir raided by the tranny nkvd for an egregious optics violation

A lot actually because it's been a big interest of mine for years. I don't care about this specifically though because it's historically inaccurate for women to fight HEMA, therefore it goes against the spirit of the sport and is not a valid competition. That medal is worthless.

can't wait for this hon to be brought up by chuddies stripping away our rights for years to come. so powerful and brave!

women don't need to be in sports

Harsh? Yes. But fair? Also yes.

Is it me or is it kind of weird hons are still posting cringe pics to xitter given current year?
Like Idk it seems like a psyop, why would they be using it?

She's hot and she deserved the win.

Regular foids should just get good.

Cis man here, cis women deserve it.

cis women deserve everything bad coming to them

The search continues for a sport, activity, hobby or intellectual endeavor in which women are better than men. So far this is the only known:

Olympic shooting

bros, why are women so bad at everything, from swimming to soccer to chess to the math olympics? Someone please help them get good

Why is this so fucking common? Pic related happened just a week or two in the UK also, even though the Supreme Court already declared it's fine to exclude trannies from women's sport. Not one but two swordhons, and look at the AGP smirk on the right hand one.

This, why the fuck do they keep creating these insane optics?

Swords are so malebrained already
If anything these organizations benefit from the trannies because they can finally have a “women’s division” and maybe attract some real bitches to the group

maybe real women will be attracted to the hobby by the prospect of getting the shit kicked out of them by gigahons

doubt.jpg

At least they’re in the doors.

is the one on the far right a passoid tranny

No, you can tell by how she isn't taller than all the cis men in the pic and doesn't have the world's worst fake tits on a rib cage big enough to store a gnu in. I think she's Eastern European so the blue hair might not even be woke-related, just some metalhead thing eg.

Why is this so fucking common?

because it's hema

she can brutalise me with her claymore all she wants

Explain.

Why is this so fucking common?

because HEMA is an extremely niche interest with no opportunities for money and limited opportunities for prestige. universities aren't giving out scholarships for it. it's not in the olympics. it's not a massive entertainment phenomenon that can pay its performers lots of money. the only reason to do it is that you're really interested in the specific intersection of history and athletics it represents.
any time you see something that is only done for its own sake and not for anything it gets you, you will see trannies overrepresented. the reason why is left as an exercise for the reader.

the actual interesting part is left as an exercise for the reader

Maybe you could type two more sentences instead?

someone who wants to gain reputation to enter female spaces but looks like a maniac pervert male

ask if it's good optics

There definitely is something crazed in his eyes, right? It's not just me?

I literally just think the thought process is

I am sword autist

also I am woman autist

sword autist meet coming up

obviously enter as woman because I am a woman 100% trans woman are women and that’s the science *wall of text*

That literal uncle fester smile KEK

i mean i could just say "trannies are more likely to actually care about things in a real way than cis people because we're less likely to be ontologically evil" but you wouldn't believe me, you'd have to see the pattern over and over again before it sunk in.

the reason why is left as an exercise for the reader

It’s called the male variability hypothesis but ur prolly just going to talk about your gender shintoism right?

outta nowhere it's actually a fuckin' leftover baeddel having a schizo melty right in the thread

probably several dozen times because i'm a skallagrim subscriber

what's up with agp trannies and having such hollow, recessed eyes

I'm a right wing chud who loves when women get heemed by transwomen in sports. The "ehrm this ackshually really effects women" are lib infiltrators.

these ogrehons

less likely to be ontologically evil

Gay marriage is so getting overturned by 2030

standing next to the tranny mulcher 3000

"hey maybe we should have had better optics"

the tranny mulcher 3000 is the name of her sword

wdym by “these ironic t-shirts that read ‘pPLEEEASE TURN ME INTO MULCH’ might’ve been a bad idea”?

HEMA is fucking gay, no wonder these abominations have infiltrated it. I now understand why you dont really see them at Buhurt, you'd think the name would lure more of them into it but it seems xirs know better and they/them dont want free concussions after eating a halberd to the head, what a shame.
t.TurboChud

i heard a grand total of 0 people talk about womens sports before trannies become a big thing

they will find any reason

if every tranny looked and behaved like picrel then the trannymulcher3000 would be justified

Therr's a grand total of 0 people talking about the obscure state park near me, and yet if bulldozers showed up, there'd be outrage.
It's not "finding any reason," having a substandard mental model of your opponents will see you losing more and more.

I'm a tranny and i do buhurt

The real division in the trans community is not HSTS/AGP but mulcher/mulched

TRVKE

trans people are like bulldozers thats true

you'd think the name would lure more of them into it

What? Because it sounds like butthurt, or...?

are you a moid abusing hon, tho? also pics or it didnt happen.
Thats the implied joke yes, you are not very good at this are you? to be fair, it wasnt a very good joke.

The women who play those sports and the people around them certainly seem to think so.
This whole

I'm such a sweet lil bee I couldn't possibly cause negative externalities through my beliefs

thing doesn't work in 2025

2

Oh buddy do I have news for you

why is it that you treat people who produce bad optics as something innately mutable but the people who exploit those bad optics to hurt you as an immutable certainty

Sheer comparative volume plus human nature.
If you're <1% of the population, optics are going to be far more important to you as a matter of pragmatism.

Any woman who enters a division specifically called Women+ knows that she is, and is in fact asking to, fight against trannies in combat. Nobody sprung that on her, she knew this hon was going to be there, and she said "Yeah that's fine" because the division was called Women+ and specifically advertised to contain transsexuals.

set your sights on the people looking for an excuse, not on the excuses
if you can't control that people want to kill you for essentially no reason, you also can't control whether or not any person in the world that belongs to the same category as you is unattractive or weird or prone to committing faux pas

why is it that you're complaining about terrible decisions and not about people who can tell the decisions were terrible

really nigga, really?

You can control your own actions as compared to the standard of the dominant group, and can control your endorsement of others in relation to the dominant group.
To suggest that it's more reasonable to try a pressure campaign against the 99% to be less discerning of the actions of the 1% is retarded.

I think a more honest framing is

Why is it that you're complaining about terrible decisions and not about people who decide to punish you for other people's terrible decisions?

a transphobe is not going to hate trans people less just because you personally agreed with them that oh man you're right that freaking disgusting groomer tranny needs to be killed for playing sports, and there is no international trans congress to as a group formally disavow every fucking random twitter user

Erm actually the Boondocks made me far less racist in fact

a transphobe

You're already lost in the woods.
The optics concern isn't for established bona fide tranny haters.
It's for normies who will become radicalized against the small group by observing the small group behavior.

To suggest otherwise is to presume that everyone outside the small group is already a tranny hater, which is a recipe for radicalizing everyone against you.

the tranny haters will amplify anything bad and bombard normies with it, see the whole trans sports shit beginning with focusing on an extremely small subset (high performing trans athletes) of an extremely small subset (trans athletes) of trans people to create a narrative. even if every other trans person also dogpiles the person doing the bad behavior, that's not going to stop it

boondock is one of the most anti racist thing
it's trying to be eye opening in cartoon form
NTA

Yes? I said it made me less racist didn’t I?

As a cis man, I whole heartedly support turbo rapehons ogres brutalizing women in their own spaces, specially since they voted for this. I hope this becomes common and even hopefully evolves into a gladiatorial fights format.

5 women vs Rapehon the Destroyer in armed combat

Nah I only fight with the boys. Sweaty tall men :F

It's like heaven <33333

how many times have i thought about trans anything until you made it mainstream

Gee i didnt know i wasnt allowed to formulate opinions on subject matters that experts tell me only they can gatekeep.
How the fuck do you expect me not to be ignorant if even you cant provide an explanation. Sure the ones asking legitimate questions and the ones with ulterior motives might seem identical to you but you shouldnt dismiss it bc youre tired of dealing with transphobia.

Guess those normies are just doomed to hate you (read as: everyone not in my group is a hater, aka "see I don't need to change after all").

I was agreeing with you
Boondock is a treasure

What are you talking about women have been swinging swords forever you stupid bitch

and your strategy is what? being a pickme and hoping that gets extended to everyone else? yelling at the bad trannies online and hoping people see?

The same tactic as labor unions. Moderating, assimilating, building broad tents, shedding low value contentious issues, etc etc.
In other words, being smart, being strategic, and not spilling spaghetti and circling the wagons over every indefensible position that comes along.

pickme

is a cop out term used as a foil for ingroup criticism, and to prevent actually having to integrate and horse-trade with normies.

Who decides what a low value issue is? We might generally agree that sports are low-value, but some would argue that teens getting hormones is low-value because it's contentious. But you know a well as I do that it's actually often the difference between passing and looking like a hon forever, and as was established before. you care a lot about optics. Hons are bad optics, they viscerally upset some people and make them more anti-trans.

Who decides what a low value issue is?

Both the small group and the large group.
The small group assigns a priority and severity and the large group assigns a cost (the resistance to the issue).
Whether the issue persists or is discarded is a function of those things.

hons

by appearance are far less damaging to optics than the cumulative behavior of TRAs or the one-note demands of trans orgs on contentious issues

Both the small group and the large group.

So you're going to let your enemies tell you what you're allowed to have.

by appearance are far less damaging to optics than the cumulative behavior of TRAs or the one-note demands of trans orgs on contentious issues

Nobody was talking about some generalized 'bad trannies' shadow group you're fighting. I brought up a specific issue some would try to discard because it brings normalfag scrutiny but is actually very important. Your opinion on it doesn't even matter, I'm trying to express the core issue that some people are going to toss out issues that DO matter as a matter of appeasement, and thus you'll lose potential progress and a better life for transsexuals in the future.

So you're going to let your enemies tell you what you're allowed to have.

May I suggest you read Kissinger's writings on realpolitik and reflect on being 1% of the population.
You can make a mad dash for the "just ram what we want down their throats" door, but don't be surprised if and when that actually gets you exterminated.

some people are going to toss out issues that DO matter as a matter of appeasement

Yes welcome to compromise, also known as "being effectual."
If you disagree, consider the trends of the last 5 or so years.

I'm trans kickboxer, and I'm only interested in fighting other trans women and maybe men someday. It's hard to get matchups, but I'm never going to beat up a cis woman no matter how strong she is, I'm a lateshit and I obviously have advantages over the cis women in my gym. It's whatever. I dunno what the vibes in HEMA are, every sport has to make its own judgements about what divisions to have and the rules for who competes with whom.

LGBT and specifically T will never have good optics. Normal people loath you and the days of liberals pretending to like you to feel like good people are numbered.

You can make a mad dash...

I'm not suggesting anything, I'm poking holes. This hole is that your enemies will give you nothing or little at all, that much is obvious. You need to push them to gain any ground, you cannot bend at any resistance expecting this will win their hearts. They aren't happy with you living in a non-offensive corner, they'd rather 'cure' you of existence, their solution to the you problem is to find some way to rewire your brain to be cis, or perhaps to prevent you from being born in the first place. So you must choose a point to fight, and letting them decide that point will be at your right to exist at all.

Yes welcome to compromise

Yes dear, compromise on the important issues and maybe your enemy will spare you. He totally won't take advantage of your compromising position to stomp on your throat. Tyrants exercise power for the love of power. Once more, you refuse to actually engage with the point: there are things that matter to you that others would suggest to toss aside forever. What do you do? Submit? It's so easy to say that about someone else, but nobody ever is willing to accept that for their pet issues.

If you disagree, consider the trends of the last 5 or so years.

Yeah a lot of people being terrified of hons hiding in bathrooms and ugly old queens in the government. Propaganda. Too bad we can't solve the hon issue by promoting awareness and acceptance of transitioning earlier yeah? Oh wait, that's not an important issue to you. Anyway, when has a minority group ever benefited by responding to propaganda painting them as monsters by actively ceding rights or privileges? "Oh I'm so sorry massa, you're right, I'll stop drinking from the white's water fountains to stop scaring your wife, you'll totally support my right to use the same schools, right?"

In my buhurt club the girls aren't delicate flowers, they are heavier than me and fight with intention, they usually knock me to the floor. Anyways armored fighting isn't really that violent, you almost don't feel any hit. There is a women category that also includes trans people (the one in op's pic won) and then there is a cis girls only. I guess it's fine for me, weight and strength gives you a big advantage in buhurt, I like challenging men but I always end up being subdued x.x

This hole is that your enemies will give you nothing or little at all

Repetition of the same fallacy all throughout the thread, which is that everyone opposite you on the issues you care about is your enemy and wants to see you dead or intentionally reduced to nothing.
The reality is that the opposition is overwhelmingly normies who can be negotiated with but will radicalize into enemies if they perceive precisely what has been happening for years - shrill demands for complete locksmith compliance.

You repeat this fallacy throughout your gigantopost which is why I won't be point-by-pointing it.

They aren't happy with you living in a non-offensive corner, they'd rather 'cure' you of existence

NTA but most normal ppl aint got that free time to cure weirdos if it has nothing to do with them at all. There are many different non-mainstream groups no one gives a fuck. Even as a trans you wont try to fix them if they are not giving you problems. Just sayin how human minds work

*lockstep compliance lel

Cis Women don't hobby / get as invested in things as hard when they can't get money or attention out of it, so they half ass it.

Trans women do have a bit of dude brain left, and dudes will absolutely go hard on things for barely any reason.

This is why Trans women dominate in obscure sports, HRT wrecks your muscle mass and bone density, but it merely enhances your autism.

Here's the core problem with both of your posts: you think I said "everyone" or "the average person." I'm referring to the people in charge who want to use you as a scapegoat. The ones in charge of the propaganda mill. What 'normal people' want isn't relevant, because that can be manufactured top-down. What matters is you usefulness as a tool in that propaganda.

This attitude fits right into the protective foil of not having to change or do anything because "it's just not possible." It's a convenient position to hold to avoid personal or small group accountability.

I never argued there's nothing you can do, and I never argued you don't have to change. You're inserting other people's arguments into my mouth. My point was that you can't cede ground to people who want you as a sacrifice at their altar of power. Their cupidity can't be satisfied until you cease being useful for that goal.

My point was that you can't cede ground to people who want you as a sacrifice at their altar of power.

Fine, but you also can't simultaneously demand ground at the expense of normal people.
And if you believe those normies are only contesting that ground due to manipulations by the shadowy elite, then revisit all of the above.

Probably because the people who exploit the bad optics are incredibly effective at swaying uninitiated normies to their side with these kinds of optics Ls and without these tangible examples to point to those exploiters just sound like windbags blowing hot air.

Not just you.

Depends on who those optics are good for.

Its either for
A) the trans group
B) the cis group

What's the point of a trans person impressing the trans group.........?

Child

Teen. Big difference between 5 and 16. I think I get the gist that you oppose it to? I'm very happy for you that you got GD at a late age and pass, apparently. That or you're self-destructive. Not all of us got lucky, but empathizing with other people's problems might help you understand why it's an important issue for some.

insight into national discourse

Don't misrepresent what I said. I noted "I can look at national discourse the same what you can." That is, I'm also observing what's being said and done on the national level. Painting that like I said I'm merely deriving my local experience is dishonest argumentation and hurts your credibility.

I doubt your ability

Nobody here is campaigning to be head speaker of the tranny union. I don't need to prove something to you, all I need to do is express ideas. You mostly get what I'm talking about, but then leap to assuming or projecting the worst, or are dismissive. That's not really on me, people that don't want to be convinced won't be, and we're not performing to an audience.

Again removing any agency from the masses

The masses are informed by propaganda. Their social media, or television for the old ones, tells them what to think. Most people are not free thinkers, and even if they are, they don't have the time to get educated on every single issue. Especially if it doesn't effect them. You wanted to point out earlier how small of a minority transsexuals are? That means there are very few normalfags who it impacts directly too, which means there are very few for whom it's a personal issue they might find the time to personally invest in and develop their own opinion. For the rest, they'll look to others to tell them what to think, hence mass media and social media. You don't control those. Currently, your enemy does.

The elite are out to get me

The current set is, yes, you're a good wedge issue for conservatives, and Musk is reeling about his daughter still so it's personal for him.

the workings of mass human psychology

You preach about this a lot, but I don't think you understand it half as well as you think you do, with your constant assumption that normalfags care to get informed about your issues enough to research competing narratives. Especially any outside of the immediate mainstream.

You're circling

So are you. The obvious is that you can't be convinced, nor can I, so there's no point. Again, in such a debate, the point is often convincing the audience instead, but there isn't one here. So we can stop at any time and lose nothing.
I'm not convinced you've talked with one if you think most have given more than a surface level thought to the whole thing. You're effectively taking what I said and trying to re-frame it like they contextualize it in a more complex sense and acknowledge some of us aren't abusive; you're being charitable. That charitability is misguided, because they never stop to think "Yes of course it's only some of them that are bad" unless they know a transsexual personally (rare) or are themselves somewhat more intelligent. Some might acknowledge that if you confront them with it, but the minute you walk away, that idea gets tossed in the trash instead of being considered. Because the core belief is that you are a pervert, so everything from there must flow from sexual gratification. Nuance is non-existent in a simple mind.

I'm happy for her but like read the room lady. Now isn't the time to flaunt one of the few remaining inclusive sports.

And if you can afford expensive HEMA gear you can afford FFS baka.

Step one would be better makeup.

No make up is hiding that nose and brow.

But you are correct. Trannies need to learn that less is more when it comes to make up unless you have a full diva outfit to match with your layers of make up.