its not fair
their autism literally set trans rights back 500 years
why is this even allowed
its not fair
their autism literally set trans rights back 500 years
why is this even allowed
Three quarters, the rest come from AGPs, any time I start to see trans women as normal people I just need to talk to one to change my mind
I'm just a gay man on estrogen with my gay men on estrogen homies
Dude transbians are AGP wtf are you on?
transbian agphons just have much greater visibility and soft power than other trans people. you’re basically dealing with a group of very autistic and sexually aggressive and predatory men. you just can’t silence a group like that. they’re always going to be visible because of how they invade almost every online space. and yes, they’re bad for trans rights.
"Straight" AGPs then, happy now?
i actually think it’s cultural or has to do with age of transition
italian tranner study
83% heterosexual
US youngshit study
94% heterosexual
US tranner study with all ages included
22% heterosexual
what gives??
All AGPs are by definition straight. A minority of the autists fool themselves into believing they need the fantasy of a male partner to complete their attraction to themselves as a woman
italian tranner study
Sample size: 5
sample size was 314
Sounds too much for Italy
I think this youngshit brain study was funny like they literally did not get a single gynephilic one
lesbians arent real confirmed
I think 100% of cis lesbians under 18 were calling themselves nonbinary demigender panoctagons when they tried to recruit participants
almost 100% straight
darn that's a lot
What about the stereotype that trannies are BPD cutters who threaten suicide constantly and ruin every job, relationship, and friendship they ever enter?
How many of you HSTS shits have a real fucking job and sit anywhere other than the bottom tax bracket?
Teehehe, but crippling dependency you feel so heckin' feminine and valid, amirite?
What about the stereotype that trannies are BPD cutters who threaten suicide constantly and ruin every job, relationship, and friendship they ever enter?
This doesn’t exist irl
BPD cutters
nobody irl knows what that is lol
touch grass
everybody irl knows what a crazy bitch is though
basement dweller agp hands typed this post
what actually causes this? it's hard to keep a straight face and say that this deeply dysphoric highly androphilic type isn't more valid than the video game speedrunner ketamne addicted polycule transbian who transitioned at 24
Fucking baby-trans don't remember the old days, when the stereotype was that trannies were druggies and prostitutes, and if the cops saw you walking around at night they'd stop and search you for drugs or condoms.
that was already part of the effeminate flamer stereotype and we learned to cope as a society by just treating them with kids gloves like women
Neither is valid. Most people are horrified at the thought of minors transitioning. The stereotype that schoolchildren are transitioning doesn't come from transbians but you don't wanna talk about that.
Fucking baby-trans don't remember the old days, when the stereotype was that trannies were druggies and prostitutes, and if the cops saw you walking around at night they'd stop and search you for drugs or condoms.
That's HSTS. Of which there is not ONE on this board. Not ONE.
It's much more complicated than Blanchardism which is an outdated 80s pseudoscience that still has some valid points. It's much more complicated than just HSTS vs AGP.
It really isn't.
It is. It's more like a cline and while the AGP archetype described by Blanchard exists, there is more nuance to the other types of MtFs than what is decribed in his old work.
I think it’s just a spectrum from OCD dysmorphia to hobby obsession for the most well adjusted (having grown up online in the furry and brony communities I see no difference between the types of people that are involved in transbian culture) . And then there’s Chris chan types who think theyre just literally supposed to transition because they saw some vaguely relatable autistic psychology meme.
Everyone makes it overcomplicated trying to find some underlying neurological, natal or chemical reason that fits literally everyone but I think it’s just a basket of pretty common reasons pathologies focused on a single thing
gynephilic, non-passing, weird fetishes, masculine hobbies, late onset dysphoria or non-dysphoric
androphilic, passing, vanilla, feminine hobbies, early onset dysphoria
Let's be serious, what percentage of tranners doesn't fit this dichotomy?
AGP cope. Give me one argument
the most harmful stereotypes come from drag queens (sexualization of children) and transvestite faggots (extreme fetishistic degeneration). autistic transbians aren't much of a nuisance
drag queens arent trans lol
100%, the latter part is wrong, it's female brained bottoms with a male emasculation fetish who act on female stereotypes instead of acting like a woman
Ay gee pee cope.
yes, but it doesn't change the fact that normies blame trannies for what they do
drag queens are also to be blamed for reppers, people see this clown shit and decide to rep out of embarassment
The kids transition panic stems mostly from ftms calling themselves dood and cutting their tits off.
but you have the androphilic girlies who might have some hobbies that aren't typically feminine and there's the occasional androphilic dysphoric late transitioner too
that anon is probably right its complicated
we can all agree that agphons are real and problematic tho
I think there are AGP and HSTS people exist as an aggregate but many people fall in between.
I will use myself as an example. I'm neither the stereotypical AGP coder nerd or a husstuss flamer that jumps from dick to dick. Now I take estrogen and present as male so do with that information what you will.
However, I DO play videogames. (Not as much as I used to) and I did MOD for them (mostly failed). Game being Hearts of Iron IV and some other WW2 themed games which is 100% male coded.
Yet, in my actual life people assume automatically that I'm gay. My occupation is female dominated, and yes I also do have a boyfriend. I'm almost a stereotypical big city homo in my manner of speech, my job, etc.
But that's just the image, reality is more complex than that. In reality I'm ALSO a huge chud and play games that normies would be turned off by. I also go on incel forums to discuss blackpill.
Yet, I get complimented on the street for my appearance. I do normie things like going on vacations, dinners, theaters and even travel with my boyfriend.
Maybe, and this might just surprise some of you... that people can be more complex than they make themselves out to be. There are plenty of nerdy gamers that are totally 100% gay.
You guys are not looking any deeper than stereotypes and superficial appearances.
transvestite faggots (extreme fetishistic degeneration)
autistic transbians aren't much of a nuisance
these are one and the same.
So not transbians. We are unfairly blamed for tranny problems but like, we aren't even really trans. We are just gay men experimenting with estrogen.
Transbians - made the internet hate trannies
Teenage ftms (and sportshons) - made normie women hate trannies
drag queens - made normie men hate trannies
That’s the basic breakdown
what is it with transbians and polycules? it’s so weird
Well I think if we helped people see that trannies are problematic and harmful to society than that is a public service if anything
transvestite faggots are literally not agp, their arousal comes from humiliation, not femininity, and they're not distressed about their masculine phenotype, even autoandrophilic, refuse to take hrt, they're the type to cut off their balls just to take testosterone after that
basically this thx anon for an accurate summary
Wrong. I know from personal experience fucking them.
They see being a woman as a humiliating thing. Only HSTS actually possess true femininity. You're either born with it or not. Those who aren't are AGP. The end.
only people who are attracted to themselves with female phenotype are agp. you might as well argue that men going for tomboys are homosexual.
You're AGP coping. Not even presenting a real argument. If they are straight and aroused from being humiliated as a "woman", they are getting off on "being a woman", hence AGP.
AGP AGP AGP
this is flipping insane like its actually wild if u think abt it
do you think there's no psychological difference between a conscript soldier shooting an enemy and a serial killer?
Women don't talk like this.
I'm not a woman or pretending to be one. Where did I say that?
lmao
A soldier was forced to shoot, no one is forcing you to troon out.
what is it that makes androphilic trans women put so much more effort into voice training than transbians? i don't want to talk about trutrans vs faketrans but that's something i've noticed
A soldier was forced to shoot
no, he wasn't
nobody forced physically his finger to pull the trigger
It's not just a fetish. Natal homosexuals actually have a mosaic of the female and male brains.
Transbians aren't trying to trick straight men into sex
so you're saying transbians transition out of fetishism?
You're forced by the situation dumbass.
Paraphilia, yes.
hsts is transitioning because they think they’ll look and feel better as women, agp is transitioning because they think they already are women no matter what they do
mosaic of the female and male brains
it about attraction. we only define the traits as "male" or "female" because most people are straight and attracted to the opposite sex.
so am i
what's that
What are you trying to argue?
look it up
natal homosexual don't have female brains. they have "attracted to men" brains.
im on my phone i cant do that rn
The default brain is female. Homosexuals get less test in the first and/or third trimester, stopping them from developing male characteristics.
Same reason why they can be equal peers with women and become hairdressers, theatre kids, sephora reps, etc. You are fooling no one.
yeah basically this. Man/women as genders are just the categories with assigned to sexual selective and rearing behavior within our culture. Which is why people are confused by transbians and gaydens. Since and effeminate gay man or a masculine dyke simply stepping over the line into the other sex seems like just the natural extension of their gender expression. Whereas when a gayden or transbian does it it’s transitioning into an aesthetic running further from their sexual orientation and gender expression.
idc. skirt go spinny and lesbians love girlcock
chadhon vs the virgin blanchardian
makes viral meme about how “soggy” and “chewy” and “feminine” his erectile dysfunction is
puts it on a T shirt and sells it to teenagers
is balding and will never pass
straight man with fetish
All straight men have fetishes
This is an anime imageboard. We are more likely than not not average men
I maintain that all straight men have fetishes, some are better at hiding it.
like im going to listen to a fag with internalized homophobia
Where did I say I was gay or a woman retard
must be tough being a doll who forgot to transition
autogynopholia try not to groom challenge: impossible
No way it's too late for you. You should get off the computer before you John, 50 and make things worse for trannies.
what actually causes this?
The obvious answer is that bianism is culturally mediated i.e. faketrans, rather than "brain intersex" as AGPs like to bleat. It's a proto-incelistic fetish subculture arisen from failed males (easily observed by studying the "egg cracking" posts of middle-aged bians trooning out on e.g. Reddit) and as such it's logical that the rise in bians follows the rise in failed males in late capitalism.
And before anyone says anything, hussies do not care about "brain intersex" because that isn't a female type of argumentation, autistically vomiting huge piles of crunchy numbers is malebrained argumentation x100 and you simply will not finx an ex-flamer swishing his newly painted nails at you and going "guuuurrrrlll the latest study shows 48.73% probability of relocation on the J1 haplogroup"
Bians are not gay men retard, why would you turn to pussy AFTER experimenting with estrogen?
but not all straight tranners are flamer stereotypes
Transbians are gay men who have sex with gay men while dabbling in recreational chemicals like estrogen. None of us want pussy or even worse, gruesome surgeries like SRS. You must be confusing transbians with c4tgen rapehons.
nta but many transbians want to have sex with cis women, they just have to settle for other trans girls
if anything transbians are straight men
ugh those faket4tbians are the worst! Thry should just kill themselves because no cis woman will ever want them and they just cause problems in transbian communities leading to broken polycules and abandoned puppygirls.
so none of y'all can answer why that is? because i know a rly smart straight trans girl and she has typical female interests but she's one of the smartest ppl i know and she has only ever dated men and liked men
and she's not a flamer she doesn't act like that
you simply will not finx an ex-flamer swishing his newly painted nails at you and going "guuuurrrrlll the latest study shows 48.73% probability of relocation on the J1 haplogroup
Wife material
Because nurture idk bitch
wdym? also she has some boy coded hobbies too but is still the most passoid of all passoids i've ever met how do you explain that
There’s outliers on every bell curve
so u admit its complicated
not particularly. I’m not whatever anon you were talking to. But if like 90% of women are normie Stacies or whatever it doesn’t mean a bookish heterosexual girl can’t exist.
so its complicated.
why?
because not all straight passoids are flamers!!!!
they turn to GOCK
Wife material
Too bad they don't exist then
No that literally is not complicated you idiot, stop trying to quibble yourself into not having to listen to reason
you're being rude.