Is it over if I'm 18 and not on testosterone? If I get on T, will I ever pass...

Is it over if I'm 18 and not on testosterone? If I get on T, will I ever pass? Seems like only ftms that actually pass are ones who started at 12-15.

kill yourself

Jammi seems to pass

Get on T and ibutamoren NOW

Dude don't worry about it passing as an ftm is easy as shit

pass as what??

it doesnt matter. if your transition fails, society will rush forward to save you when you inevitably give up playing life on hard mode

meanwhile you will do nothing as they also cheer on every amab suicide

I don't want to
It's not unless you're youngshit
Man

I started at 23 and started passing less than 3 years later. if you start T soon and start gymmaxxing IMMEDIATELY it will be easy. people will lie and say passing as ftm takes no effort but it does, or at the very least effort will speed things up

why are you saying this to 18yo girl?

how tall are you?

It is. Testosterone literally does nothing important for ftm youngshits. They’ve studied height and there’s maybe an inch difference

Get shredded and grow a beard and you're good.
Dwarf mode is available to anyone

No. There is way more cis men in roids than trans men, so the market of roids are way more diverse and professional than the ones that produce hormones for mtf

nah that's not too late. Go workout, and do weight training. I often notice some ftms aren't as active as they should be. Look for a manly inspiration, it could even be a fictional character like kratos or something. and use that as motivation in the gym (or whatever you workout)

knock it off you little faggot

nigga shut your dumbass up faggot. i wish I could slap your dumbass.

Your growth plates probably haven't fully closed yet, if you get on t now than you may get a couple of extra inches in height

testosterone doesn't make you taller and female growth plates close around 16
jesus christ this board makes me not support women in STEM because why are all the MTFs smart and good at science and biohacking their HRT and anyone without a cock doesn't know ANYTHING

Because afab brain is disability, mtf's can pretend to be dumber to reach female levels but ftm's cannot make their intellect not inferior.
T.female retard

What drives the ogrehon towards misogyny?

I started at almost 25

What drives the ogrehon towards misogyny?

you think that I, someone who called MTFs men and FTMs women, am transgender?
please no more women in STEM, I don't think you have the brains for it

I actually used to know an FTM who started T at 15 or 16 and, IDK if it's bad genetics or bad dose, but he passes as, at most, an effeminate-looking man now in his 20s. Meanwhile I've met a couple fully passing openly trans men who didn't start T that young. So I think you could well be fine.

Well I don't understand. What can op, especially an 18yo, do about it?

you think that I, someone who called MTFs men and FTMs women, am transgender?

That's literally everyone on this board

dont worry testosterone is extremely potent and destructive so you can destroy your body at any time and then cry about it after you detrans.

Mtfs are just as retarded on this board, they worship trooning at 16 not knowing that’s about when male puberty ends, coping with “hurrr growth plates don’t fuse until your 20s” nigga if you didn’t have that last growth spurt only SOME males have towards the end of puberty your growth plates have been fused and you’re not magically going to get hips + oestrogen cannot undo your giant linebacker shoulders, facial characteristics (brow bone etc) and size 15 feet STUPID MALE

Lol you’re not actually female stfu

Most detransitioners are mtfs.

I look at pictures of myself from when I was 16, and pictures of myself from this year, and my face definitely masculinized significantly (I started HRT this year at 22). Puberty does not end at 16. I really wish I had gotten on HRT even a few hears earlier. My face practically looked like a girl's back then. Now I'll definitely need FFS to ever pass.

are you attracted to men or women?

You’re either delusional or you started puberty late. My face looks the same as it did at 16 lol

I don't think I started puberty late. My face was androgynous to start. But my face became less round. My jaw became larger and squarer. My brow is more pronounced. It's not as bad a starting point as some poor nonas here, but I really feel like I squandered what I had.
If you post your discord or email I could show you images from when I was 16 and from now to prove it. Not that comfortable plastering tons of images of myself on Anon Babble for all to see.

He is very lucky, had masculine face and was 6'1

Why does that matter

how tall are you?

Im not OP but height (5'3) doesn't matter. I've got cis doctors my height and no one is questioning if they are ftm.

also not op but 5'6

probably going to make it
at best you'll be a manlet

all this is dependent on if you actually transition medically sometimes most ftms refuse to do

Nigga I said I'm not OP. I've been on test for 7 years, the height doesn't matter if you plan on taking your shots long term.