What does /tttt/ think of Bridget?

What does /tttt/ think of Bridget?

i don’t play guilty gear enough to have a well developed opinion. i think it’s really funny how many people insist she’s not a trans woman despite the creator literally explicitly saying she is

i cheered when she was shown bathing in this episode

Episode 4 is the best episode so far, and it really disappoints me that she wasn't in Episode 5 or 6.

I like Bridget and her being trans but this thread is gonna be rage bait for bitter femboy reppers

Yeah I don'/t get why there are people that still deny it even after 3 years. Like what the fuck?

Character design way too tryhard. Trying soooooo hard to be cute.

I've nutted to Bridget nsfw fanart about 50 times. AVE!

I think she's extremely based.

t. cis male

nonsensical retcon

it makes way more sense to insist you're a man if you're force feminized from birth lmao

microplastics forcefemmed you from birth but /tttt/ aint ready for that one

I'm trans and I don't like Bridget. She's not good trans rep because of what you described. I'd prefer trans characters to not be written in a way that can be interpreted as them being groomed into being trans. She's mainly popular because she's cute and one of the first trans girl reps in a big video game

52 now.

true. and also onions gave me estrogen

idk why it filtered that word but i said s/o/y onions baaasedyy not onions

Pretty much what I'm trying to say. There was nothing wrong with how Bridget was before, as more of a joke or at best a statement that being gnc is perfectly fine and doesn't make you less of a man. Make Bridget trans and suddenly you open up all kinds of questions and very unfortunate implications.

Bridget is a femboy and if you disagree you will never be a woman

bridget if she was real
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

another tourist talking about bridget

imagine my surprise

you're a tourist for not knowing random word filters

that's just a bad sign you've been on this site for too long hon

That tourist is making you resort to ad hominems rather than discuss their points

what points?
go back

you must not use this site because you don't know the word filters

you are hilarious

You deflected both of these posts lmao. It's okay to be trans and think Bridget's backstory is bad

I used to play Bridget in the late 2000s/early 2010s in local GG tournaments when they were using games she was available to play in/etc, and when I was a teenager I made a MySpace theme based off of her, before she was a trans character. Always thought she was really cute and a fun design.

I came out as trans (FTM) back in 2012 so maybe it's not surprising I've always liked Bridget... but I was kinda shocked Daisuke Ishiwatari and the game team out-right confirmed she was trans. Then again, Venom from GG has been gay since he was first introduced, which was pretty cool.

why does every trans story have to be perfect?
go back

leave because i don't like that you're right

you have low standards. it's okay to want a trans rep that wasn't groomed into being trans and wanting otherwise isn't asking for perfection

go back

i’ve only seen this character posted here so idk, looks like something a transbian would fetishize tho

imagine having a meltdown because i didn't know s/o/y was filtered LOL

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go back

go ack

more like distortion in this case...
it's not about having to be perfect, people should be able to acknowledge it's bad even if they like the character. it reads like they just wanted to appeal to the rabid trans headcannon crowd that will try to convince people that literally any gnc male in fiction is trans. like if you want actual trans narratives, or stories where they may more plausibly be trans there's many out there

and what does it mean to be "plausibly trans" anon? and forgive me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the notion that someone can be groomed into being trans completely fly in the face of tranny logic that you are simply "born" a tranny with a "female brain"? theoretically, under the modern hontology zeitgeist, bridget was trans from the second she was born and it doesnt matter that she was "groomed" afterwards. unless you're admitting someone can forcibly become trans? i mean if you admit that, wouldnt you be admitting that theoretically a trans person could be forcibly de-trans into being cis and happy about it as well?
please engage with my argument in good faith. you surely wouldn't just hand-wave what i'm saying after calling me out for using ad hominems, right?

this board will have meltdowns even if u don’t get their inside joke, terminally online autists r super weird

56 dear god give me strength ave!

artist names pls

groomed into being trans

she was raised as a girl not forced

anon please slow down

yes she was forced? her village would’ve killed her if they found out she’s a guy, she wanted to be her agab

stuff like the david reimer case is obvious proof that you can't groom someone into actually being trans
i mean you can groom someone into a crazed agp beast but the faketrans issue is another one

so then why does it matter how she was raised? she was trans from the start

shes ugly

57!! Ave
I just download them onto my computer from booru's or from Anon Babble so I wouldn't know sorry.

Nta but it's really bad optics and can be used easily as a bludgeon

OP Here. I didn't expect this to turn into a coomer thread.

I think people feel weird about bridget being trans because she was forced to dress up as a girl for like 20 years or whatever and then ended up deciding to actually be a girl
and it's true that this isn't what being trans is like irl. Bridget isn't exactly a realistic depiction of a trans woman, she's a fictional anime character
but the important part, and why real life trans people identify with bridget is because nobody chooses to be trans. Trans people are forced to transition because of dysphoria, and if that wasn't a thing then nobody would ever want to transition because being trans sucks. The fact that bridget was forced in a more literal, physical way is really just an allegory for what being trans is like. But a lot of people don't want to see things that way, and would rather try to take the most literal interpretation of the story to say that she's not trans because she's a forcefemmed femboy or whatever as if that's meaningfully different in real life.

hons are bad optics yet we permit them to live

Because Death of the Author is the take to have here. He backtracked on 20 years of Bridget lore to appeal to jealous American troons. It trashed a character who began the social movement for naturally androgynous males being given the allowence to be feminine without throwing away their male identity. Even worse, it reinforced a very harmful trans stereotype that trans women only exist because of childhood abuse.

Bridget being trans literally helps nobody with representation. Just because the author made a decision doesn't make it a good decision.

are you happy about the discussion that’s taken place regardless?

Okay? Go murder ugly people if you want I guess lol

I’m the actual OP, I don’t know why that guy is larping as me

yeah this is what I'm talking about here bridget was always meant to be a trans character. That doesn't mean she was literally trans in universe 20 years ago. Daisuke is literally just being like "ok it's current year we don't need to pretend like anime otokonoko are not really just trans characters dressed up in more culturally acceptable language for the time"

The artist name is literally in the filename newfag senpai

just saying it's weird to complain about an obscure (don't flatter yourself, bridget is obscure in mainstream culture (go ask your mom if she knows who bridget is)) fighting game character being "bad optics" when people like "IT IS MA'AM" exist

Forcing males into a trans identity simply for being born androgynous and enjoying an alternative expression is dismantling the entire concept that gender is a spectrum that troons hinge their existence upon

I would caution trying to read someone's mind from 20 years ago. Kyle literally gives Bridget a speech about how being gnc doesn't make you less of a man in the old games, it doesn't pass the sniff test to think that Bridget was always meant to be trans.

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actually being trans is in no way reliant on gender theory
you can tell because gender theory is less than 100 years old, but trans people have existed since the beginning of human civilization

Kyle literally gives Bridget a speech about how being gnc doesn't make you less of a man

and people nowadays say the same things to trans women to try to get them not to transition

Gender theory also can't be picked up on brain scans, while transsexuality can. T has biology behind it, Q does not.

Kyle isn't a villain, Kyle is one of the most heroic role-model like characters in the franchise.

Otokonoko has a long history in Japan, though, it's not like anime invented them.

so? lots of people think they're being helpful or affirming when they're not. It's common for family to try to affirm the masculinity of a boymoder because they think they're insecure about it.
regardless, there's also no evidence that bridget was not meant to be trans. Bridget is a fictional character that only loosely represents any real life identity when taken literally.
You also can't claim that bridget is actually a gnc femboy based on the literal story, because she was forced to dress like that.

58. My dick feels like it's burning when I touch it so guess that's the end for today

Okay, but here's the point I'm trying to make. How can you know that Daisuke 20 years ago intended for Bridget to be trans and for Kyle to be well-intentioned but misguided? How do you know he didn't intend for Bridget to be gnc and for Kyle to be sending a supportive message to Bridget (and the audience)? It's not like Daisuke would admit that he updated the character to fit his modern beliefs, that'd be a bad look.

you can’t tell someone is trans based on brain scans, maybe you’re arguing with hrt but that’s the hormones causing the difference

So which one is it? Was Bridget groomed into being a tranny, or are people just born with a female/tranny brain so it doesn't matter how she was raised? Can people be convinced into being trannies, and thus be convinced out of it? Or is it an immutable part of themselves that they cannot possible ignore?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5738422/

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763421000804

because through cultural context I have noticed that it's common for japanese media to create "trans coded" characters that function as an allegory without being literal about topics that might alienate the audience. As it turns out, some portion of the audience is upset about the character being literally trans even in 2025, so it's understandable why they would do this.
to me, bridget's character is better understood as an inverted trans allegory, because a gnc man is not the equivalent of someone forced by society into conforming to the opposite gender. There is no gnc allegory with bridget, a boy raised as a girl is not in any sense a gnc concept. It's a trans concept.
That's the real irony of the anti-trans pro-bridget femboy argument, being that bridget is also not willingly a gnc femboy.

if you correct for brain size only a few differences persist and it's like 1% variant because the dimorphic areas are really small

hmm that sounds like it doesn't actually disagree with the previously posted study at all

This puts us at an impasse rather than definitively proving either of our positions, you realize. Only an expert who is familiar with the subject can give us proper peer review and decide what these two studies mean, and if one, both, or neither were done validly.

bridget is a fictional character

It is important to note that gender dysphoria is not required to be transgender. The American Psychiatric Association, which designed the criteria for gender dysphoria, states:

Not all transgender or gender diverse people experience dysphoria.

psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria

it's common for japanese media to create "trans coded" characters

Or maybe they're otokonoko coded because otokonoko is a concept that's existed in Japan for centuries where feminine men are treated like/take on female roles without being considered women.

most "trans" people are not trassexuals

otokonoko are crossdressers. Bridget isn't a crossdresser because she didn't willingly present as a girl, she was forced into it. Don't you think this might reflect badly on the crossdresser community?

in the context of a story there's clearly overt ways of writing a character with gd and more ambiguous writing where the reader clearly doesn't have enough knowledge of a character's internal state to jump to these kinds of conclusions although they may be somewhat plausible as i put it. in the case of bridget i wouldn't really go with the grooming angle, it seems more like an asspull. in regards to grooming people can be groomed to do whatever, but you can't really be groomed into feeling whatever.

I'm not even talking about Bridget there, just any character you might have identified as trans-coded.

Then that just gives credence to the interpretation that Bridget was groomed, you can’t try to trutrans a character with that backstory

there's plenty of media where it's clear that a character is literally just a crossdresser and not trans coded

the point is that it doesn't matter because bridget's story is entirely fictional and can't be mapped 1:1 to a real life identity

Don't act like crossdressers in Japanese anime are always, or even usually, butch. Hell, it's more common for the really masculine ones to outright be transsexual if they're not just okama, because it's treated like a funny joke. Gasper from High School DxD is a better example of a standard crossdresser in anime.

Your point earlier was that transgender people were born with female brains, which is something inconclusive at best, and not something required to be considered as transgender in our world, neither is gender dysphoria. Bridget’s environment shaped her in transitioning to a woman, which is a polite way of saying groomed since a child.

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Only the devil could say something so retarded

I don't care what modern activists say about the "transgender umbrella" or whatever
you're not going to trick me with progressive language.

Those aren’t activists, that’s literally stated by The American Psychiatric Association, which designed the criteria for gender dysphoria

we both know that they're giving the most inclusive definition possible to not run afoul of non-transitioning cisfem enbies
you're not going to trick me with progressive language.

Cannot believe people are arguing they made Bridget trans to appeal to Western audiences. Do not talk about Japanese culture as if you know it, you fucking retards. Let me educate you.
Japan is an extremely collectivist society. There is a huge emphasis on finding your place in the world, accepting your lot in life, not sticking out too much, etc. Bridget finally accepting herself as a woman is absolutely in line with Japanese values.

Don’t be retarded, psychologists have no reason to do that. Regardless of whatever you believe, that criteria is used to diagnose transgender people. Even if some of those said people don’t experience gender dysphoria, they are as much transgender as you are, according to a psychologist

Don’t be retarded, psychologists have no reason to do that

lol

Regardless of whatever you believe, that criteria is used to diagnose transgender people

actually no, the criteria is to diagnose gender dysphoria. There is no diagnosis for being transgender.

Yes, and then those people become transgender

lol

I find that more believable than your theory of psychologists succumbing to the pressure of non-transitioning cisfem enbies

Japan is an extremely collectivist society.

yes

There is a huge emphasis on finding your place in the world, accepting your lot in life, not sticking out too much, etc.

yes

Bridget finally accepting herself as a woman is absolutely in line with Japanese values.

no

Yes, and then those people become transgender

oh, so now you do need dysphoria to be trans?
anyway based on your support for self-id, I suppose you must accept that bridget is in fact trans regardless as to whether or not she was groomed or is actually dysphoric

“Gender dysphoria: A concept designated in the DSM-5-TR as clinically significant distress or impairment related to gender incongruence, which may include desire to change primary and/or secondary sex characteristics. Not all transgender or gender diverse people experience gender dysphoria.“

I suppose you must accept that bridget is in fact trans regardless as to whether or not she was groomed or is actually dysphoric

Yes, I accept that bridget is trans. She was also groomed into being trans, but nonetheless she’s trans

Not all transgender or gender diverse people experience gender dysphoria.“

yes, "gender diverse" is pulling a lot of weight here

It says pretty plainly not all transgender people experience gender dysphoria, whatever weight you’re seeing is your personal biases

It might be that guy who goes around and claims everyone here is a femboy groomed into being a tranny and bemoaning the loss of all the femboys.

No that’s not me but there was someone in this thread talking about femboys

It trashed a character who began the social movement for naturally androgynous males being given the allowence to be feminine without throwing away their male identity.

bullshit

i don't like how it got retconned into a grooming-is-okay thing especially since i love older bishounen and wanted to see bridget become one. but i also don't share that opinion because the only people who hate on her being trans are raging asshole transphobes (and i know i'll get slammed for that language, but whatever, that's my unironic opinion.)

They're exaggerating, but in the early internet she was very popular and the poster girl of "dude who looks like a lady" trope.

btw for clarity im an mtf tranny

People debated their identity through the tranny reveal and got too lost in writing arguments and discourse to simply admit it’s shit writing.
I feel like a lot of people gravitated to Bridget cuz Astolfo was solidly a man and too mainstream.

i dunno, Testament released before bridget and she's nonbinary (which some people say is under the trans umbrella.) but she never got the same popularity that bridget did. most of bridget's popularity is just that she's cute

she's nonbinary

fuck i slipped up