i literally do not understand why people try to justify trooning out to people who will not pass when the literal point of transition is to look like a woman. why would i ever want to look like 20% of a woman (grosser looking man)?? is it some kind of trick humiliation ritual??
I literally do not understand why people try to justify trooning out to people who will not pass when the literal...
I don't think I look bad actually, even if my "percentage" doesn't go up, which I am sure will, but if it doesn't I'm still an attractive effeminate "man".
Why are you bringing Jesus into this tho?
unrelated thread pic (christ is still king over all).
Jesus loves you and wants you to live truthfully and with love.
You're stuck in hate, for yourself, for your sisters, for all mankind. If you truly accept the love that Jesus proved to us all those years ago you must accept that you are called upon to look after your health, mental, physical, and spiritual.
Which means you need to get out of this cycle of hate and accept who you really are, so you can be healthy, so you can love Jesus properly.
In heaven you'll be made a woman, because through Him all things are possible. But on Earth you have to accept that you have to do something unpleasant, something that will earn you persecution and humiliation, because Jesus loves you for who you really are, not for who you're pretending to be.
i moreso think of these feelings as my cross to bear, all people must struggle and shy away from temptation. if God wanted me to be a woman, they would have made me as such. in any case, i'd probably still consider it if i could actually look like a woman, but i can't, so i won't.
i'm also literally full of love, i don't judge people for what they do because it's not my place to do so. this is especially true when regarding transgenderism given how i understand the subject so intimately. it's just not for me.
God did make you a woman. Physiologically speaking your central nervous system is set to female, and that's the you in the sentence "I think therefore I am."
You're just sick. Getting well won't be easy, and you have to do it because the world sucks for us right now.
Then why even pose the question? What nonsense is this?
I was pretending to be a man and it made me sick and hateful and angry because I'm not a man. I started getting the medical care I needed and transitioned to living as a woman should live, because I am a woman, and was almost immediately able to reconcile with Jesus and the Church and become a healthy, well adjusted and loving person.
Why is there are debate? I was sick, I got better, but I carry a lot of scars of that sickness. It's that simple.
hrt made me feel better chemically. i tell everyone to take hrt for that reason.
i would argue that the 'you' in that phrase is very distinct from the neverous system, even though descartes' musings are inherently anti-human and gross. regardless, my question stands because i feel that you're making an unreasonable equation between taking hrt and just 'being a woman.' i'm upset because i am not, nor do i look like a woman, taking the meds won't solve that. perhaps you could make the argument that on some higher notional level i would be accepting womanhood, but it doesn't rectify the fundamental issue for me, that being that i won't look like a woman.
i literally just do not see the purpose of transitioning when i'd literally be just as mannish and upset as i am right now, only with a-cup manboobs. i've already reconciled with the church, and i don't blame anybody that this is how i am, it just sucks.
but how so? what do you mean by that?
the dysphoria doesn't go away and the longer you put it off the worse it gets
perhaps you could make the argument
Perhaps I could but that's avoiding the question, why is there a fucking debate here? I don't owe you an explanation.
If you have gender dysphoria there is exactly one effective treatment for it. That's it. End of debate. Get your fucking politics out of my healthcare.
but so what? i'll still be dysphoric regardless. plus, it's been relatively stable for pretty much my entire life.
lol, you really all fall into the same fallacies, huh?
it's the only thing that makes it stop getting worse and can actually help it get better, and you should start taking the inevitability of it getting worse untreated on its own more seriously before you end up john 50
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It literally goes away, and you're straight up lying or speaking only from your experience.
I know many detransitioners who claim their "gender dysphoria" was a B.S phase they got convinced to bandwagon onto.
how many? who? where can I read their testimony?
Well I would rather look like an uncanny valley non passing trans woman than continue to masculinize every day.
Like another anon said, it gets worse as that happens.
And another anon said it made them feel better: this is true for me, too. I don't know if it's just because I expect to feel better or if it's the actual cause. I'm less depressed. My emotions are stronger.
So don't, you fuckhead.
You're telling us you're trans, great, welcome to the party sister.
You're telling us you don't want to get treatment, okay, that's your call. It's not advisable, but nobody can force you to do it.
You're telling us to convince you to do it anyway, and we can't, you've made your choice.
your god is dead and your faith is death, cultist
now nut up, drop the make-believe, and take your fucking pills (retard)
Not helpful sister.
drink bleach, you nasty old susans-tier pickme hon
I'm sorry. Please continue to frame your willful persecution of the 1.4billion catholics on earth as a trans issue, on behalf of all transwomen, many of whom are themselves catholic, while gatekeeping care based on political allegaince.
Because that's definitely going to end super duper well for all of us.
You fucking hateful piece of shit.
but how so? what do you mean by that?
like i got on it and i got less neurotic. my baseline mood improved, i get angry less, im less tense.
see
You could probably just go to r/detrans and find something like that, although a lot of them seem to still suffer dysphoria to some extent
so you're just making shit up, thanks for confirming!
i didn't even bring it up. my initial post is entirely unrelated, and is regarding my concerns of transition and doesn't apply to anybody except myself. i'm not trying to upset anybody :(
i'm mostly just concerned by the actual mechanism through which it would make me feel better. i've had a resignation about the progression of my body since i was quite young and it doesn't upset me anymore now than it did when i first noticed it. it still sucks, and it's difficult for me to look in mirrors, it's hard for me to date, etc. but i just don't understand how being 20% more effeminate is supposed to help.
i'm not trying to be belligerent, i just literally do not understand the mechanism. a lot of people say it just made them feel better pro se, but i don't understand how.
i don't know why you'd intentionally be cruel.
i'm happy for you, it makes me happy to hear when people in my position can feel better about themselves. my mood has also improved ever since i started taking a million pharmaceuticals for my profound brain problems. it's wicked and i'd like to get off them eventually. maybe hrt would improve my mood also, i really couldn't say.
No U.
You're the problem. You're why they hate us. You're why we ALL suffer. You're why I find it so hard to actually form a transgender community in my area, because nobody wants to stand within a hundred yards of an obnoxious transbian.
i don't know why you'd intentionally be cruel.
the poster I'm being "cruel" to is a fascist pickme who also hilariously tries to gatekeep other trannies
I'm not and no I'm not giving you the contact number of my friends and family member.
Thanks for trying to bullshit people with a fake dysphoria boogie man that "never goes away", bullshitter.
shut the fuck up you disgusting nazi sack of shit, if I was still like you you'd make me ashamed to be myself just for existing
still
oh god no I was never like you, if I was like you*
prove that it goes away, I'll wait
i don't really know any of the trip lore so idk, i also think that my bar for outward hostility might be higher than yours.
are you new to Anon Babble? please get off this site and take your damn HRT
Sweety you literally told the OP to fuck off for being Christian.
Like seriously, maybe if you had some self awareness you'd realise that "transbutch" is actually just "gross man trying to fuck lesbians" to everyone else.
You SHOULD be ashamed of yourself for existing. I'm certainly ashamed of you.
And don't tolerate your bullshit. If you try to kick out or bully one of my sisters for having the wrong politics, then you're out. That's how that works.
i've posted on and off for most of my life, i just don't pay attention to trips cause it defeats the point of the site, i think.
i do think about taking hrt a lot, it's just hard for me to justify it to myself.
I don't have to prove shit to your dumb ass. You go ahead and believe bullshit lies you were told all your life for all I care.
Prove that it doesn't away. You can't.
the point of transition isn't to look like a woman it's to ameliorate dysphoria symptoms by reducing the amount of things you feel dysphoric over. that will sometimes mean that you have a strange mishmash of traits but it works i think
also all people who follow abrahamic religions are sheeple
Like that.
Fuck you, she's welcome, you leave.
it's just hard for me to justify it to myself.
why? don't answer me, just think about it honestly, and apply those same standards to other people
all the studies we have show that it gets worse over time, and there are no stories of someone "beating" gender dysphoria - you're thinking about this backwards and in the same way people engage with matters of faith (like religion, or racism, or conservatism, since they all operate on the same basic denial of reality and evidence in favor of whatever your precious little beliefs might be)
i would rather be 20% woman 80% man than 100% man
(like religion, or racism, or conservatism, since they all operate on the same basic denial of reality and evidence in favor of whatever your precious little beliefs might be
Communism and atheism are not symptoms of gender dysphoria you fucking heinous piece of shit.
STOP STARTING WARS WE IMMEDIATELY LOSE.
no studies of someone beating fake dysphoria
Don't need a study to determine something that happens regardless of the study or not.
I think that's half your tranny asses problems. You base all your life on "studies" conducted by people who desperately want you to live your life a certain way.
if people tell me that it helps, then i guess i'll trust them. although most of the traits that upset me are my bones and social stuff, so idk. in the past i've tried growing my hair out and shaving my body to see if i could make myself feel somewhat better, but it only made me more upset.
i won't try to convince you on religion, but it makes me happy!!
i don't think this was very clear. i meant to say, i feel as if whenever i've done things in the past to try and make myself feel better it's mostly just left me even more despondent than before. maybe its the direct comparison of female traits on my male body, i couldn't say.
thank you :D
God you are waste of meat.
The absolute irony of you accepting the bipartisan atomistic bullshit sold to you by the media while actually having the arrogance to call the "other side", which is actually a completely fictional boogyman, stupid.
You want to talk about things that don't exist? Republicans don't exist. They're just human beings just like you.
But those human beings feel so fucking attacked an antagonized, BY YOU, that they took away the rights of all of our sisters in America the minute they had the power to do so, which they will, a lot, because they outnumber us 10,000 to 1.
And in the state of that OBVIOUS and DEMONSTRABLE stupidity, you actually accuse others of living in denial of reality, to justify the hate that literally just blew up in your face.
are you saying that relying on evidence and reason is somehow bad, while also very clearly demanding that I and others live their lives a certain way because of an actual agenda? fascinating
The evidence is the M on your licence.
You didn't check yourself, now you've wrecked yourself, and you took all of us with you.
Get YOUR politics out of my healthcare.
You literally said you don't have a study on it therefore it can't be real.
That's the dumbest fucking thing I think anyone's ever said. Congrats.
Why don't you study deez nuts, faggot?
You literally said you don't have a study on it therefore it can't be real.
lol
where did I literally say that? damn, you have to to be trying to be this dumb
You are obviously the dumb one here.
Your arguments seem almost designed to be unconvincing and divisive.
whoa there buddy, calm down and slow down, now go back and read what I said and respond to that instead of what you imagined (and literally took the time to type out in place of what I actually said while trying to quote me)
I've read every fucking post you've made.
And my description of you is apt.
You're here to create conflict and sow division, which disguise as a debate you don't argue very well.
While you attack anyone who is actually showing empathy to OP, who is obviously struggling with a very important decision she doesn't have to tools to make.
are you trying to be funny or are you actually this stupid? you are arguing against something I literally did not say and insisting I literally said it
You don't seem to be able to hear yourself.
You're (not actually) citing science you don't understand to make argument that are not, in any way, convincing, to someone who isn't actually opposed to you.
While also claiming Emily, who was doing the right thing by showing empathy and explaining how OP is making her own choice, and anyone else who "opposed you" were "gatekeeping care" while doing exactly that.
Emily might have her flaws but she is 100% right about you. You are not helping.
You're (not actually) citing science you don't understand to make argument that are not, in any way, convincing, to someone who isn't actually opposed to you.
can you try that one again? I did not cite anything or say I was citing anything, and yes I am directly opposed to things like emily who literally just itt did the gatekeeping thing by calling out "the bad ones" (transbians in this case) and who is also quite literally a fucking nazi
passoid or hon, they're both born men. The dysphoria is the same. Any reduction of masculine traits is a relief.
this
op you're a typical case, don't let people tell you there are unfalsifiable groups of nebulous "good trannies" and "bad trannies" or other garbage rhetoric spewed by the reppers and nazis here, just accept your shit and deal with it while being honest with yourself - that means looking into the effects of hormones and a provider or DIY option for them, and considering what if any kind of social transition or other changes you might consider at some point in the future, without letting anyone tell you exactly how to do it
I did not cite anything
right here >all the studies we have show that it gets worse over time, and there are no stories of someone "beating" gender dysphoria
I am directly opposed to things like emily
Emily is not a thing, she is a person, and dehumanizing her like that while trying to remove her, along with all christians, conservatives, racists, and anyone else you don't like, is actually gatekeeping care.
Emily is a transwoman, she is exactly as entitled to gender affirming care and the love and support of her sisters as anyone else. Having the approved politics is NOT a requirement for that.
I didn't cite anything, again, what the fuck are you talking about? I made a general reference to the body of available evidence and studies showing a specific outcome that supports a common conclusion, and alluded to the absence of even anecdotal evidence for the contrary presumption that was being argued in the vein of very very typical anti-trans rhetoric
Emily is not a thing, she is a person
lol
transwoman
LMAO
put your trip back on, your dog whistles have turned into comedic foghorns
I just cited the post.
And yeah my trip does go back on, because I am not a nazi, just an anti-semite and you are Jewish. You have outed yourself.
And that is why you're here stirring up hatred and division amongst the community. You're probably not even transgender.
You are just another Ken Griffith
Another Allysa Heinerscheid
Another Ezra Levant
Another Ben Shapiro
I'm a threat to you, and your dealing with that the only way you know how, and I accept that. But I don't accept your lies, and I don't accept your hate.
Republican, Christian, and nazi transwomen are welcome.
You're not.
Thanks for shitting up the thread and scaring op away
That wasn't me sweety, that was you.
This is OP talking to me
thank you :D
You just can't help yourselves.
why people try to justify trooning out to people who will not pass
I don't advocate non passers to do a typical binary MtF transition, but I do advocate for manmoding because I personally know ex reppers who are more stable nand functional now that they're manmoding on E without presenting like a woman.
I truly believe a John 50 situation where an ex-repper, now non passing boomerhon, is a much worse situation for everyone compared to somebody who started E in their late 20s without planning to ever girlmode. It's both about people's general quality of life and optics