Welcome to c4tgen, a place for cis women to love trans women and trans women to love cis women
C4C posters welcome
Be respectful
No t4t
No hetposting
No yaoi
QoTT: what's your favorite ship, butchfemme or otherwise
Discord: discord.gg
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I like it when women :3
Futch4Futch is peak, particularly when they both have nice jawlines and clavicles
yearning for bearded and roided butch husband who treats me like his princess
I am partial to femme4femme but I think mixing it up can be fun
Based as hell edition.
Cisles butches and femme mtfs are the perfect pairing! Basically made for each other!
QoTT: what's your favorite ship, butchfemme or otherwise
Isidora and Ro from Heartstrings!
Ro is honestly just such the perfect butch. She is strong, protective, brave, caring and utterly chivalrous. I'm also just a complete sucker for punks and tattoos in general. It is like she was plucked right out of my fantasies.
fem4fem or futch4fem
oh how i yearn for my wife
new bread
New breed
*ing kink general
There has still never been a reason posted for this thread to exist that isn't transphobia or PIV (just to be clear PIV in based and not an issue but y'all should be more honest about it).
Holy shit go back to lago there are absolutely differences beyond genitals
Loving relationships v. Weird abusive poly riddled trauma bonds
I meant to say lagogen
I'm here because I'm a trans lesbian who wants a relationship with a cisles butch.
I cannot post in /clg/ because I'm trans. I cannot post in /lesgen/ because I am an actual lesbian and because that general is very hostile to both butches and any mention of a cis woman who is not Lardo.
/lesgen/ is also basically all bisexuals. if you look at their discord server, lesbians are in the minority. absolutely hilarious for "lesgen" to not have any lesbians if you ask me.
To be fair the server owner and it's only active moderator are bi trans women. Said moderator is the person putting up these threads
my favorite ship (despite not watching the show) is momonina from girls band cry. i think the grey haired one is trans and i also think the red haired one pegs and hurts the other
i find these sort of threads rather concerning, transphobic and hypocritical
How are they concerning, transphobic, and hypocritical
i find you to be an annoying fag, what now?
trans women are women
if a cis woman says she only dates AFABs, she is deemed as bigoted, but if a trans women says the same is somehow alright?! you sound like that person from Anon Babble
afab 4 afab exclusive lesbians are punching down
amab 4 afab exclusive lesbians are punching up
there are enough trans women who want to exclusively do t4t. why don't you go bother them and call them bigoted for not wanting to date cis women?
Where did we say trans women aren't women
I also don't think we have an issue with people who are afab only
People are allowed to have preferences
the thread poster and server owner (lago/conejo/steph) is a cis lesbian. her girlfriend is bi trans. and there wouldnt be any lesbian thread anywhere, not even clg, if bishits didn’t post. even clg's most recognized posters have mostly been bisexuals (bishit, bipedo, roxy, fartsnatch, baek).
When you said you outright refused to date them because of made up attributes you painted the entire demographic with.
Was referring to this thread
misunderstood because anon you replied to was talking about lesgen and its server
lago x bnuy are the board’s reigning c4t couple
lagogen is more popular
lesgen always praises c4t but t4t is also respected
why do we need this gen again?
no one said that they were not dating trans woman based on if they were women or not. trans women are just more likely to be polyamorous or have some kind of other mentally ill bullshit going on. that's just a fact. god forbid other trans women don't want to deal with all that toxic baggage and have a normal loving relationship
1. So I've been in a t4t relationships and it's unbelievably toxic and he (since detransitioned) polyd out on me
2. I'm not attacking trannies or whatever c4t is just the active interest for me right now I'm dating someone whose cis right now
3. I wouldn't do piv but I have genitals preferences I like vaginas on women
Lago is like the token cis woman with a harem of losers one of whom happens to be her girlfriend
The thread is incredibly hostile towards cis women and attraction to them unless it's weird breeder or jav pivving
you must be living in an alternate dimension if you think this is the case.
the other thread is hostile towards her too. you guys are being hostile towards her right now. dunno how you don’t see the irony in this.
Reread my message again, I do not have an issue being against Lago specifically
We dislike her because Lago started talking shit about our gen first LOL
not to be that guy, but /lesgen/ fucking hates the piv stuff lmfao. so i dont know what you're talking about anon
you are stereotyping and making assumptions. it reads the same as "i dont want blacks in my neighborhood because they are more likely to commit crime" except in this case you are also black and uncle tomming your own kind
it’s strange to obsessively complain about the most prominent cis woman poster and in the same breath wonder why cis women don’t post more. people seem to really hate her for not leaving. I do think she must be crazy for staying so long despite extensive attacks on her while other cis women have left more easily. but surely it’s not going to help your gen to continually bring up the board’s only cisf (basically c4t) poster in a negative light.
"How dare you not be attracted to me and want to have sex with me. You're just like an uncle tom"
Get outtttttt
So Lago started talking shit about us and she started having some weird vendetta against me specifically because she wanted to take out some anger she had for some other people over a year ago
Not to mention she also drove off all the other cis women I was friends with from her server
you're a racist because you dont want to have sex with trans women as a trans woman
you sound kinda rapey not gonna lie. why do you want to force me to have sex with someone that I have no interest in?
So I can plap Asian pussy until it's preggers with my wasian daughters.
Genuinely my irl uni trans spaces have some weird expectations of sexual availability to everyone else
start new gen to get away from lagogen
turn new thread into lagogen by still talking about her
amazing
I was there, jackie. your cis friends were calling people rapehons. they were rightfully banned. you admitted you weren’t friends with many of those people anymore. it sounds like you have a grudge against lago more than anything.
We keep getting tourists who want to attack our right to exist here
You can go back thru the threads she brought up the gen first and she started making personal attacks against me first
She was only brought up bcs u ppl kept coming here to attack us
every time. transbiangen (last iteration made by office retard) died last time because it was made to spite lago. how can one tiny latin cis woman hold so much power?
Lardo
Tiny
im not forcing you to anythiung. just asking why are you being so hypocritical as you are the type of person that gets upset when cis women dont want to date you and would absolutely be a terf had you been born cis
Like I quietly participated in lesgen before she started spewing her nonsense abt me and c4tgen a couple weeks ago
im so fucking tired of everyone constantly bringing up this lago retard. who even is that. can we please talk about ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
did she lie though? you were friends with terfs and pickmes and you ignored me bringing it up just now
Thank u anon
They look cute I love the animation style. I think small height differences where the slightly smaller person is more assertive is pretty cute
Lovely
Ryumako is my favorite lol, foundational for the thread really
jackie will deny this because she is a manipulative snake
"piv is hot and cool and great"
HELP HELP I'M BEING OPRESSED
I can talk about girlcum leaking out of well plapped pussy
I don't want to shit up the thread further so I will reply to you on lesgen
39876494
yes please I wanna rub my gock against pink little nihonjin pussy lips
woah woah woah hold on. who said i get upset when cis women dont wanna trans women? i frankly don't give a fuck about that. im not seeking out cis lesbians that hate trans women that would be dumb as fuck
need this while she calls me her oniichan
that's honestly preferable. piv > random channer drama
Piv people were also instigating by questioning why we even exist
i think small cis girls domming tall trans girls is about as peak as it gets. i love it when small girls can make big girls all bothered and helpless, it's my absolute favorite ship trope
Girl met pulled me down to her level to kiss her <3
I felt warm after
i think... I miss my wife (she's sleeping)
SO PEAMMMMM
qott: ryuko and satsuki
butch mtf really is a hon cope
grim
Could we not
No drama this isn't the place holy shit get out get out get out
There has only been one anon who had any other reason to be here than hating trans women.
ryukop....
Are there actual cis women here who prefer trans female partners?
c4t cis women (if you are real), why are you c4t? what is attractive to you about trans women?
c4t piv sisterly love
no yaoi
Please fuck off to lesgen with this shit.
They look great. How I would want a butch to look honestly.
If that is not something you are into, keep it to yourself.
funny how this pops up today
my ex cis gf, the only one who treated me nicely and was a normal human being, just contacted me after six years. SHe lives in another country now, she wants to be friends
I'd like to hear this too
How are u taking it anon are u happy u heard from her?
that’s not yaoi that’s t4t butch4butch
im sure there are but they're probably not browsing Anon Babble. they're probably at their local gay bar trying to get some tranny to go home with them and god bless them for it honestly!!!
HAIIIII, I actually explained prev a bit but long story short I think girls who literally couldnt be men when forced into it are probably the best girls for a lesbian to date and ive had the best experiences dating tgirls compared to cis girls, though its not rlly that strict a preference, im mostly here cuz the girl I like is a tfem and I need a place to wifepost lol
I replied back saying Im happy to talk again but it feels really werid.
Id really just was coming to terms with the fact that I will never meet someone so its a bit unnerving
not the first time I've had an ex text out of the blue however, but I have found myself daydreaming about flying over to see her again
this is such a good explanation but it also makes me feel kinda :SSSS ....imagine being such a failure that it becomes attractive to people wahhhhhhh
Questions for tgirls, asking for a friend
Age
Race
Height
Weight
Body type
Top or bottom
(If bottom) Strap or no
Fem, butch or futch
Pre SRS or post SRS
Describe your preferred partner
if being a girl means being a failure you and me are not on the same level of dyke, its like trying to force an angel to be dog, of course shes not gonna cope well
a place for cis women to love trans women
there are no cis women in this thread. Cis women do not want a disgusting defanged male
any "cis woman" attracted to me is a reppoon who just wants a socially acceptable, sexual outlet for his frustrations at me for casting aside my masculinity.
So the proportions are skewed to trannies (less so than lesgen)
There are cisf posters here and please take ur negativity elsewhere
woah, anon do you need a hug? maybe a warm dinner and a day out in the sun? idk if ive seen this much self loathing in one post in awhile ...
29
White / Eastern European mutt
6'3"
188 lbs (on a bulk for BBL that's scheduled for June 20th, normally I'm between 175 and 180)
(slight) inverted triangle, soon to be corrected
switch
futch but being masc can be fun
post-orchi (samples in the bank), working on electrolysis for SRS
outdoorsy with some nerd hobbies, I've been playing a lot of MtG recently
21
Brown
:(( like 160 lbs
5'1"
Kibbe soft dramatic, pear shape
I don't really like top bottom stuff but if I was pressed on this bottom
No strap I don't like anal, ask me again after srs
Fem not really, trying to dress more fem
Pre srs
Some nerd hobbies, some creative hobbies, assertive and shares my values (anti porn etc), wants kids in the future and we appreciate eachother
>Age
30
>Race
white
>Height
6'2.5"
>Weight
188.2lb
>Body type
tall, broad but slender, but also lots of loose skin from when i used to be 320lbs. Tons of stretch marks, body covered in big ugly scars
>Top or bottom
top, usually. but submissive so whatever she wants tbdesu. Butt stuff doesn't feel good to me - but who cares? im a people pleaser
>(If bottom) Strap or no
sure
>Fem, butch or futch
wannabe fem but dont pass
>Pre SRS or post SRS
non-op
>Describe your preferred partner
a loaded shotgun
idk, she needs to be dominant, at least most of the time. I would want her to be funny and share my interests. idc much about height or body type or anything like that. women are all pretty. also she has to be able to put up with my crippling self esteem issues; every single criteria i have listed makes me disgusted with myself for asking for anything when im this creature.
yeah that's not really what i meant but i dont think i said it right. i understand what you mean though......
girls who literally couldnt be men when forced into it are probably the best girls
this sentiment makes me happy. thankyou nona, I'm glad you see it this way.
(from: the person you're responding to who asked the question originally)
that's pretty mild for me, actually
i doubt it but okay
Our ratio is like 1/7 lesgen is like 1/9
babytrans on the loose again. you will find someone who loves you and they might even be cis, all you need to do is get rid all of this negativity. if there's one thing that's not attractive to women its someone who is constantly going woe is me no one likes me!
So what are you collecting data for
no worries anon, do you wanna try and explain it again?
babytrans
im 4 years hrt
you got me all wrong, i dont date. it doesn't bother me that im unattractive to women; i deserve no less anyway.
if you say so
ofc ofc, I'm glad i could make you happy and explain
that's depressing, you good Sarah? I thought you were just trolling but I do want you to know that you are not disgusting, atleast not because you're trans, idk you past that
being this miserable after being on hrt for four years is almost entirely self-induced. you're suffering no reason. there's no point in making you feel this way. your misery is entirely manufactured by your own outlook that's undoubtedly fueled by other mentally ill people on this board. i think if you actually worked on yourself and made yourself a likable person, women would find you attractive! im a busted ass brick and i still managed to pull because i have a sense of humor and i care about people. it's not impossible.
Okay update!
so she told me she has a girlfriend! and shes moving in with her into a house they brought together today! and today of all days she decides to text me, decides I need to be a part of her life.
Honestly, had a slight glimmer of fairytale romance for a moment then. Back to being a doomer. cis people just see me as a plaything for when they feel bored or unfufilled
am i a poser for having one of those on my hip all the time. i like to keep trinkets on it. and my keys
Age
31
Race
White
Height
5'4''
Weight
85 kg (currently weight cycling)
Body type
Pear? (I think my breasts may be kinda big for my body to be a true pear right now, but I will definitely be one after pio)
Top or bottom
Bottom
(If bottom) Strap or no
Strap!!!
Fem, butch or futch
Femme
Pre SRS or post SRS
Pre-SRS
Describe your preferred partner
Tall (-er then me, but the bigger the better) masc butch.
Protective, maybe kinda possessive, willing to be absolutely doted on/spoiled by me.
Willing to put up with my arty, dreamy personality while also helping ground me in reality.
I'm sorry anon :(
That sounds tough but I don't think u should give up on c4t
Obviously what she did hurt u but I don't think it's a reflection of u I think it just means u were valuable enough to someone that she wanted to keep u in her life not that it makes it hurt less
i doubt she meant it in a bad way. like i dont believe that she purposefully reached out to fuck with you. she probably just wanted to check how you were doing. im sorry though, i can definitely see how that would sting and rip open old wounds :(
no its a fire utility tool that also signals to everyone that you're a massive dyke
you good Sarah
it's ""Sarah""
and no. no i am not.
atleast not because you're trans
no, that actually has nothing to do with it. just low-hanging fruit for my digital self-harm. My soul is rotted, being cis wouldn't fix that.
idk you past that
lucky you. I won't stick around long enough to ruin that for you. honestly idk why i wandered in
being this miserable after being on hrt for four years
hrt has nothing to do with it.
i think if you actually worked on yourself and made yourself a likable person
not possible. there's no foundation for that in me
women would find you attractive!
that is not a desirable outcome. idk if you can tell, but i have issues. it would be irresponsible and immoral to drag someone into all this.
Please stop shitting up the thread
i dont think this conversation or you being in this thread is useful to anyone. if all youre gonna do is doompost and feel bad about yourself then go do that elsewhere.
women finding me attractive is not a desirable outcome
then why are you here?
what just happened
i self-destructed in some random thread. just another weekday afternoon
then why are you here?
honestly idk why i wandered in
i dont watch threads, i just got notifications when i get a (YOU). don't reply and im gone.
It hurts because it feels like every relationship is either someone who is unwell and wants me to be their caretaker or its someone who treats me as an exotic sidequest in their life. Even this ex was part of a polyamorous situation where I basically had to spend half the time placating her cis wife.
I always wanted to have a family growing up and I was coming to terms with the fact that this was just not going to happen, figure out how to live without it. Then she just DMs me and goes "Hi, I got everything you wanted, we should be friends!"
it just sucks, thank you , , for listening. its really spun me out. Might depressionpost a few more indie sadpop bangers
Poly
Sorry anon that sounds awful I do hope u have future prospects that treat you better
When we met its because she had an open relationship with her wife, they were travelling the country. I usually dont do casual but she was so cute I just had to. We hooked up, kept talking. Hooked up a couple more times and asked her wife and me if I could be a polyam. Like an idiot I said yes cuz i was head over heels and I was like "whats the worst that could happen"
wife turned out to be a complete control freak who would call both of us and just verbally berate us. It was pretty horrible, but to be fair she thought she was happily married and suddenly her wife is declaring her love to a tranny.
At times it was nice, we went travelling together in a campervan, the three of us. One nice thing about polyam is that when its good it feels like you have a family, although i wouldnt reccomend it to anyone.
the one thing that haunts me is that apparently she thought I was cis when we met, and then when she found out I was trans she was a bit freaked out and thought about callling off the hookup unitl her enby friend convinced her to give it a shot. After the first time she loved my SRSussy and was constantly asking to eat me out, I used to love seeing her face framed by my thighs, tracing my fingers over my arm.
Sometimes I told her that no one treated me nicer than she did. When I said that she would cry, say that she felt like she wasn't even doing the bare minimum and it was sad that I found that to be so romantic
yeah its all flooding back
I'm really sorry anon
I did cry reading, how did it end if you don't mind me asking?
all of this might dox me but I dont give a fuck, "oh no the lonely tranny posts on Anon Babble" who gives a shit.
I was playing at a sporting event, I was playing and it was the coolest that I had ever been. She would come up onto the track and kiss me before a round started, in front of the entire crowd.
then I broke my ankle during the game, I was stuck at home. They looked after me for a couple of weeks, but they were here to travel, not to nurse some broken tranny, so they left to continue their trip.
I flew down to see them (ON CRUTCHES!!) a couple of times, even spent christmas with them, although by that point things had become very tense.
Then it was January 2020. I reading conspiracies online about some bizarre flu. They told me I was overreacting. then countries started to close up, then our country closed up, and I couldnt see them.
Worse, I was stuck alone in a studio apartment with a broken ankle, while they were camped out together enjoying country life. My girlfriend was crying whenever I called her, her wife was calling me and analysing everything I said and did, reading through the text conversations with my girlfriend and analyisng them.
part 2
Eventually it was too much. The world was ending and I was lying there wounded, alone, abused. and her wife asked me if I wanted out. I said yes, but we need to do this carefully. She then started texting me nonstop telling me how horrible I was, that I got involved and tried to ruin her marriage, saying horrible things. and so I claled up my ex and explained. We cried on the phone together, I felt horrible.
she said we would be "friends" at the time, but that didnt last, a few tense phonecalls, usually with one of us crying. Eventually they went home.
I haven't loved anyone like I loved her since, and I've been in a two year relationship since then, but thats a different story.
she just messaged again, she said she was glad that she was able to have me in her life for a short while
I like torturing men and trans "women" are the most helpless subgroup of them
U shouldn't say this to our faces
please misgender me and call me a boy in bed
god i wish you were real
Bottom dysphoric but kind of into having my penis touched as a degradation thing
I'm really sorry I wish I could give you a hug that sounds awful awful awful
Whatever happened to her wife?
we all know its implied by cisfs who will date us tho
This isn't a thread for negativity
can you fuck off and stop policing the thread?
:(
i am not a man...
"Hey this is a positive place to discuss c4t topics"
"I hate myself cis women only date us because they think we're men" go to lagogen
cis women only date us because they think we're men
I mean a cis woman did just say that
Anon responded they all believe it...
Thread started pretty strong
Some decent discussion going on
One attention starved, self hating tranner derailed things
I really wish those sorts would just fuck off to lesgen. Let us have one non-shit lesbian general place.
So true
What are y'all looking forward to over the weekend
lesgen didn’t want us, that’s why we’re here. to discuss the realities of c4t. anon’s story reminds me that were just playthings to cis women. never good enough for a real relationship.
Anons story is sad and i sympathize with her alot and is worthy of discussion like this is a place of support and stuff but that's not the criticism and that's not the takeaway that's warranted
your hostility is really off putting, always accusing people of being trolls just because we aren’t catering our posts to you
What are y'all looking forward to over the weekend
Gonna spend the weekend + Monday and maybe Tuesday at my best friends place out in the country.
I love her a bunch and have not seen her in several weeks, so I'm pretty excited. She also has a super cute little 3 legged cat that I would die for.
Just finishing up packing now. Gotta leave soon.
Aww cool I had friends out in Austin I used to visit every once in a while and they had two cats
They're in Colorado now and the never took me to the dyke bar tho
no idea, she hadnt mentioned that. I just had a shower and im honestly starting to feel mad that she hit me up when she is moving in with her NEW girlfriend. Just like jfc make a move or move on.
some cis for t relationships work, ive seen it happen. but they do feel a bit rare, and at the moment im too sad to be objective
I truly hate people like you. I never had sex with a man and I see trans women as women. That's the whole appeal, retard. There are way more cism bottoms than trans women in this world. So there is no way you're that much desperate to find one. Just go to r9k or something.
positivity only. don’t drive away our cisf chasers.
I'm cis..
Love you <3
Our defender
I love you too nona
yeah, but are you a dom?
dominant cis women are just like that. it's worth the tradeoff, imo
Where are you getting this from
every interaction with a dominant woman ive ever had
at best im a drag queen or a "sissy" to them. but relationships with submissive women don't work, i cant do that. so beggars and choosers and such
but are you a dom?
Yes
dominant cis women are just like that.
No.
holy based
Ur talking to evil people
I love nona glad ur here to spread facts <3
marry me
ig so
I want a long term gf and then I want to get the surgery and then she gets to eat me out for the first time
This thread gives me the creeps. Yuck.
Then get out
why?
Is this thread fine with pooner reppers?
I really have a thing for bimbo trannies. They make the best porn too.
what do you like about them?
Yes but I'm anti porn
how to cope with missing my wife? I am so so so so so so so so so lonely in a way only my wife can fix
They pass and are generally fun people
Why are you anti porn? I love gooning to trannies on gif.
Call her
I think there is a massive amount of exploitation of women that goes on plus generally contributes to pro misogyny worldviews in men
Call her tell her u want to see her and take her out
I mean like literal
If ur familiar with Tate trafficking stuff plus sexual abuse etc
Unpleasant and gross industry
she's at work, her schedule is genuinely evil cuz she works when I am free and I work when she is free, im debating changing my hours so we can talk more cuz youch
Crazy that we're still dealing with these people in 2025..
Sure ^^
This only happens when you're working with suspicious agencies
That's why OF exist
Can someone please explain to me what they mean by butch, futch, etc, like what do these types of people look like? What qualifies a woman to become butch?
>Age
30
>Race
Slavic
>Height
5'7 (I have not measured my height or weight in like 10 years)
>Weight
110-120lbs
>Body type
thin-ish
>Top or bottom
both but I rather bottom
>(If bottom) Strap or no
yes
>Fem, butch or futch
idk these terms
>Pre SRS or post SRS
pre-srs
>Describe your preferred partner
I don't have a preferred partner, I don't know what human would want to date me, genuinely not just for my body. I get dysphoric when beautiful women talk to me but I know some who are so kind to me I consider being human.
Butch is a lesbian subculture but usually some masculine type identity and style
I think it's endemic, onlyfans is better but still bad (something inherrent Abt selling urself like that is exploitative plus most of the onlyfans creators that actually make money have managers)
futch u can generally label anything soft-masc imo or someone who wears a mix of styles